Next steps There appears to be a stronger verification system in both countries, including

DPMEPSPPD 46 could see ourselves. Singapore also has a very nice magazine-type summary of the delivery agreements which would be a good model.

30. There appears to be a stronger verification system in both countries, including

random sampling of physical projects which are visited along with the relevant departments. How can verification be strengthened in South Africa?

5.4 Next steps

31. DPME discusses the report and tables it at an ME Forum for discussion of areas to take forward. 32. There are some specific areas where sharing on tools and methodologies would be useful including the two mentioned above: o Use of labs as a tool in Malaysia consider using McKinsey or some Malaysians to facilitate; o Delivery management units in Malaysia Education and Health could share the experience with Malaysia and test out refining their models; o Exchanges between politicians to explore how to raise the political profile; o Sharing experience of BRISA in Indonesia and MPAT in South Africa on institutional assessment; o Exploring with Indonesia their approach to evaluation in more detail; o The Presidency‟s situation room in Indonesia where he is able to track progress across the main priorities; o The internal audit role conducted by MOHA in Indonesia; o The PNPM model of community-level planning, implementation, and ME; o Development Projects Advisory Panel DPAP in Singapore re the Big Projects Unit being set up in Treasury; o The potential of using the Civil Service College in Singapore for training South African public servants. DPMEPSPPD 47 Annexes Annex 1: Programme Note: reflection sessions were held on several evenings Datemeeting Meetings with Issues to cover 4 October 13.40 MH204 Malaysian Airlines leave Johannesburg 5 October 06.10 Arrive Kuala Lumpur 07.50 MH713 Fly to Jakarta Travel to Hotel Mulia Workshop to discuss the visit Jl. Asia Afrika, Senayan, Jakarta 10270, Indonesia, Tel. + 62-21 574 7777 Introduce tour, discuss roles, decide on report outline and roles etc Evening Dinner with High Commission Contact Ms Imas 081510533300 Thurs 6 Oct 09.00 -10.30 Presidential Work Unit for Overseeing and Controlling Development Introduction to Indonesia and the system of government. Meeting with Tara Hidayat, Deputy IV, Unit Kerja Presiden Bidang Pengawasan dan Pengendalian Pembanguan  Role of the Presidency in Indonesia‟s PME System in process of development  CP Ms Rara 085780260342021 3522703 11.00-12.30 Ministry of Finance Performance Evaluation and the Budget. Role in PME Rakhmat, Director General, Budget Section, Ministry of Finance  The Performance Management System  The use of performance information in the budget process  The way they ensure value-for-money  Mr NugrohoEvan 021 3451090 12.30-13.30 Lunch hosted by Ministry of Finance  14.00-15.30 National Dev Planning Agency BAPPENAS The planningbudgetME system Edi Effendi Tedjakusuma, Deputy Minister for Development Performance Evaluation Wismana Adi Suryabata, Deputy Minister Funding Affairs National Development Planning Agency BAPPENAS  Planning, budget, ME process  Mr Afis 085714476866 Evening Reflection on lessons  Friday 7 Oct 10.00-11.30 Ministry of Empowerment of the State Apparatus Ministry of Empowerment of the State Apparatus MENPAN Ir Herry Yana Sutisna, Deputy Minister for Accountability Apparatus  Ministry‟s experience of operating the PME system, and of using the outcomes approach  Ms Inggrid 021 5251738 12.00 Lunch  13.30-15.00 Home Affairs Ministry of Home Affairs Maliki Heru Sentosa, Inspector General  Their experience of operating the PME system, and of using the outcomes approach  The role of local government in the delivery system  Mr Bambang Sucahayo 021 3849422081317100124 16.00 Internal reflection session on emerging lessons  Saturday 8 Oct  Fly to Kuala Lumpur Morning free 15.45 MH720 Fly to Kuala Lumpur 18.45 Arrive and transport to Prince Hotel No. 4 Jalan Conlay, Bukit Bintang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur, Tel. 603 2170 8888 DPMEPSPPD 48 Datemeeting Meetings with Issues to cover Sunday 9 Oct Free Kuala Lumpur Deputy Minister‟s delegation joins the team in Kuala Lumpur

18.45 Briefing with McKinsey, Seelan