Obama on ‘Tonight Show’ with Jay Leno: Full video and transcript
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Obama on ‘Tonight Show’ with Jay Leno: Full video and transcript
By David Nakamura
NBC has released the full video and transcript from President Obama‟s
appearance with Jay Leno Tuesday night, during which he talked about subjects
ranging from Libya policy to what he thinks of Sasha and Malia watching the
Kardashians‟ reality show.
Watch the video and read the transcript after the jump.
THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO
JAY LENO: It‟s an honor and a privilege to welcome my first guest back to the
show. Welcome the 44th President of the United States, President Barack Obama.
(Applause.)
Welcome back.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you. It is good to be back.
JAY LENO: It‟s good to have you back, sir. Of course, the big news this week,
Gaddafi is dead. Rebel forces -- killed by rebel forces. Your reaction? Your take
on this?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, this is somebody who, for 40 years, has terrorized his
country and supported terrorism. And he had an opportunity during the Arab
spring to finally let loose of his grip on power and to peacefully transition into
democracy. We gave him ample opportunity, and he wouldn‟t do it. And,
obviously, you never like to see anybody come to the kind of end that he did, but I
think it obviously sends a strong message around the world to dictators that -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- people long to be free, and they need to respect the human
rights and the universal aspirations of people.
JAY LENO: Now, the mob mentality -- and it was a rebel mob, I guess. It wasn‟t
a government -THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: -- they televised the death. Your thoughts on that?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, obviously, that‟s not something that I think we
should relish. And there was a reason after Bin Laden was killed, for example, we
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didn‟t release the photograph. You know, I think that there‟s a certain decorum
with which you treat the dead even if it‟s somebody who has done terrible things.
JAY LENO: Now, you took some heat for the whole leading-from-behind tactic
here with Libya. Explain that.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, the truth was, we -- this was a phrase that the media
picked up on.
JAY LENO: Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: But it‟s not one that I ever used.
JAY LENO: No.
THE PRESIDENT: We lead from the front. We introduced the resolution in the
United Nations that allowed us to protect civilians in Libya when Gaddafi was
threatening to slaughter them. It was our extraordinary men and women in
uniform, our pilots who took out their air defense systems, set up a no-fly zone. It
was our folks in NATO who were helping to coordinate the NATO operation
there. And the difference here is we were able to organize the international
community. We were able to get the U.N. mandate for the operation. We were
able to get Arab countries involved. And so there was never this sense that
somehow we were unilaterally making a decision to take out somebody. Rather, it
was the world community. And that‟s part of the reason why this whole thing only
cost us a billion dollars -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- as opposed to a trillion dollars. Not a single U.S. troop was
on the ground. Not a single U.S. troop was killed or injured, and that, I think, is a
recipe for success in the future.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Let me ask you about that because, with Osama Bin Laden, I
remember the night before you were at the correspondence dinner and the whole
deal.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: How hard was it to make that decision to send in those Navy
SEALs? because that could have been --
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THE PRESIDENT: It could have been a disaster, but the reason I was able to do it
was -- when you meet these SEALs and you talk to them, they are the best of the
best. They are professional. They are precise. They practice. They train. They
understand what exactly they intend to do. They are prepared for the worst in
almost every circumstance. So even though it was 50/50 that Bin Laden would be
there, I was a hundred percent confident in the men, and I could not have made
that decision were it not for the fact that our men and women in uniform are the
best there is.
They are unbelievable.
JAY LENO: Now, you just announced the troops coming out of -THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: -- Iraq. We have, like -- 4,000, I think, were killed.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, 4-.
JAY LENO: Billions of dollars spent, nine years. What was accomplished? What
did we accomplish there?
THE PRESIDENT: Look, Saddam Hussein is gone, and that‟s a good thing.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: The Iraqis now have the opportunity to create their own
democracy, their own country, determine their own destiny. And I‟m cautiously
optimistic that they realize that the way they should resolve conflict is not through
killing each other but, rather, through dialogue and discussion and debate. And so
that would not have been possible had it not been for the extraordinary sacrifices
not just of our Armed Forces, but also their families. You know, when you think
about the rotations that over a million of our troops went through -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- and reservists and National Guardsmen and -women and
the strain that that placed on those families during this long period, it‟s
remarkable. So I think Americans can rightly be proud that we have given Iraqis
an opportunity to determine their own destiny, but I also think that policymakers
and future Presidents need to understand what it is that we are getting ourselves
into when we make some of these decisions. And there might have been other
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ways for us to accomplish those same goals. But the main thing right now is to
celebrate the extraordinary work that our men and women did. Having them home
for the holidays for good is going to be a big deal.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Let me ask you now, many members of -- many members of the
GOP opposed withdrawing from Iraq.
THE PRESIDENT: It‟s shocking that they opposed something I proposed.
JAY LENO: But, I mean, wasn‟t it originally -- didn‟t they want to get out of
Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, I don‟t know exactly how they are thinking about
it. You know, as you said, we‟ve been in there for years, over 4,000 young men
and women killed, tens of housands injured, some of them for life, spent close to a
trillion dollars on this operation. I think the vast majority of the American people
feel as if it is time to bring this war to a close -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- particularly because we still have -- (Applause.)
You know, we still have work to do in Afghanistan. We are transitioning to
Afghan lead there. Our guys are still – and gals are still making sacrifices there.
We would not have been able to do as good of a job in decimating al Qaeda‟s
leadership over the last two years if we had still been focused solely on Iraq. And
one of the arguments I made way back in 2007 was, if we were able to bring the
war in Iraq to a close, then that would allow us to go after the folks who
perpetrated 9/11, and obviously, we‟ve been very successful in doing that. We are
not done yet.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: But al Qaeda is weaker than anytime in recent memory. We
have taken out their top leadership position. That‟s been a big accomplishment.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Can I ask you about taking out their top leadership, al-Awlaki, this
guy, American-born terrorist? How important was he to al Qaeda?
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THE PRESIDENT: Do you what happened was we put so much pressure on al
Qaeda in the Afghan/Pakistan region -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- that their affiliates were actually becoming more of a threat
to the United States. So Awlaki was their head of external operations. This is the
guy that inspired and helped to facilitate the Christmas Day bomber. This is a guy
who was actively planning a whole range of operations here in the homeland and
was focused on the homeland. And so this was probably the most important al
Qaeda threat that was out there after Bin Laden was taken out, and it was
important that working with the enemies, we were able to remove him from the
field. (Applause.)
JAY LENO: I‟ll tell you, we are going to take a break. When we come back, I
want to ask you about Hilary Clinton and her role with the President right after
this.
(Commercial break.)
JAY LENO: Welcome back, talking to the President of the United States. So tell
me about Hilary Clinton and the job she‟s doing.
THE PRESIDENT: She has been, I think, as good of a Secretary of State as we‟ve
seen in this country. She‟s been outstanding.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Very good.
THE PRESIDENT: I‟m really proud of her.
JAY LENO: I mean, something I think is really great is the fact that you guys are
both rivals. And I did a lot of jokes about you guys going after each other, but you
come together for the sake of the country. And I thought that was pretty
interesting.
Tell me about how that works.
THE PRESIDENT: You know, it really wasn‟t that difficult. The truth is Hilary
and I agree on the vast majority of issues. We did during the campaign. In fact,
one of the problems with all of those debates was you started running out of stuff
to say because --
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JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- we had a similar world view. She was, I think,
understandably tired after the campaign and hesitant aboutwhether or not this
would be a good fit, and I told her that I had complete confidence in her, that the
country needed her. She stepped up to the plate. She works as hard as anybody
I‟ve ever seen. She is tenacious, and we are really very proud of her.
The entire national security team that we‟ve had has been outstanding, and it‟s not
just rivals within the Democratic party. My Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates, is a
Republican.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: He was a carryover from the Bush Administration.
He made an outstanding contribution. So I think one of the things that we have
done is been able to restore a sense that whatever our politics, when it comes to
our national security, when it comes to the national defense, everybody has to be
on the same page. And so the question now is, as we end the war in Iraq, it is time
for us to rebuild this country, and can we get that same kind of cooperation when
it comes to fixing what‟s wrong here?
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Now, let me ask you something. And this is a fun story. This is stuff
I love, this rumor that Joe Biden and Hilary might swap, and she might run for
Vice President and he might -- is there any -THE PRESIDENT: You know, Joe Biden is not only a great Vice President, but
he has been a great advisor and a great friend to me. So I think that they are doing
great where they are, and both of them are racking up a lot of miles.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Joe tends to go more to Pittsburgh.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: Hilary is going to Karachi.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: But they‟ve both got important work to do. They are doing
great.
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JAY LENO: Yeah. But you don‟t want to say “big f‟ing deal” in Karachi. That
could have some problems. Now, I want to -- now, the approval rating -- the bad
news is your approval rating is 41 percent.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: The good news is you are still three times better than Congress. They
are at 13 percent. So explain. I mean -- so if you are grading on a curve -- if you
are grading on a curve, you are killing. You are just killing.
THE PRESIDENT: You know, look, we have gone through the worst financial
crisis, the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. People are hurting
out there, and they‟ve been hurting out there for a while. And people were having
a tough time even before the crisis. You know, incomes, wages, we are all flat.
Costs of everything from college to health care to gas to food, all of it was going
up, and so people were feeling a lot of pressure even before this crisis. And so I -every day I wake up saying to myself, “Look, you can‟t expect folks to feel
satisfied right now.” I‟m very proud of the work that we‟ve done over the last two
or three years, but they are exactly right. We‟ve got more work to do, and that‟s
why, right now, for example, our biggest challenge is to make sure that we are
putting people back to work. We stabilize the economy, but there are not enough
people working. And so we put forward this jobs bill that has proposals that
traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans. I mean, we‟ve
got – we are putting construction workers back to work rebuilding our roads and
our bridges. I suspect folks here this L.A. would say that there are some roads that
could be fixed. You know, that‟s just my guess.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: See, here‟s the problem. And the thing that angers me and I t ink a
lot of Americans is I didn‟t like what they did to President Bush. I don‟t like when
they do it to you. When Mitch McConnell says, “Our goal is to make this guy a
one-time president.” I mean, why -- does that anger you? How is that a goal? That
doesn‟t help the –
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THE PRESIDENT: Look, I think the things that folks across the country are most
fed up with, whether you are a Democrat, Republican, Independent, is putting
party ahead of country or putting the next election ahead of the next generation.
(Applause.)
And so what we need -- there are some real differences between the party in terms
of where we want to take the country. I believe we‟ve got to invest in education
and research and infrastructure in order for us to succeed in the long-term, and I
think that there‟s nothing wrong with us closing the deficit and making our
investments by making sure that folks like you and me who have been incredibly
blessed by this country are doing a little more of a fair share. They have a
different philosophy.
We can argue about that, but on things that, traditionally, we have agreed to like
infrastructure, like tax cuts for small businesses to give them incentives to hire
veterans, on things that traditionally haven‟t been partisan, we should be able to
get together. The election is 13 months away. We‟ve got a lot of time, and the last
thing we need to be doing is saying to the American people that there‟s nothing
we can do until the next election. We‟ve got to do some work right, putting people
backto work.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Well, you are by passing congress now and giving these executive
orders.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.
JAY LENO: Explain that. Explain that.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, if Congress is gridlocked, if the Republicans in
Congress refuse to act, then there is going to be a limit to some of the things we‟d
like to do, but there‟s still some actions that we can take without waiting for
Congress. So yesterday, for example, we announced working with some of the
federal housing agencies. Let‟s make it easier for people to refinance. A lot of
these folks, because their homes are underwater now, their mortgages are higher
than what their homes are worth, a lot of them are having trouble getting
refinanced by their banks. And so they are locked in at high rates when
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ratesshould be a lot lower for them. We‟ve said, “Let‟s figure out a way to waive
some of the fees, waive some of the provisions that are preventing them from
being able to refinance.” And that could mean an extra couple thousand bucks in
people‟s pockets right now. They then have that money to buy a computer for
their kid for school or what have you, and that will get the economy going again.
So we are going to look for opportunities to do things without Congress. We can‟t
afford to keep waiting for them if they are not going to do anything. On the other
hand, my hope is that, at some point, they start listening to the American people,
and we can work with Congress as well.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Well, you are talking about listening to the American people. As
President, you look out your window. Do you see this occupy Wall Street
movement? What do you make of it from your –
THE PRESIDENT: Look, people are frustrated, and that frustration has expressed
itself in a lot of different ways. It expressed itself in the Tea Party. It‟s expressing
itself in occupy Wall Street. I do think that what this -- what this signals is that
people in leadership, whether it‟s corporate leadership, leaders in the banks,
leaders in Washington, everybody needs to understand that the American people
feel like nobody is looking out for them right now. And, traditionally, what held
this country together was this notion that if you work hard, if you are playing by
the rules, if you are responsible, if you are looking out for your family, you are
showing up to work every day and doing a good job, you‟ve got a chance to get
ahead. You‟ve got a chance to succeed. And, right now, it feels to people like the
deck is stacked against them, and the folks in power don‟t seem to be paying
attention to that. So if everybody is tuned in to that message and we are working
every single day to figure out how do we give people a fair shake and how do we
make sure that everybody is doing their fair share, then people won‟t be
occupying the streets because they will have a job and they will feel like they are
able to get ahead. But, right now, they are frustrated. And part of my job over the
next year is to make sure that if they are not seeing it out of Congress at a
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minimum, they are seeing it out of their President, somebody who is going to be
fighting for them.
JAY LENO: We‟ll take a break. When we come back, we‟ll talk more with the
President, ask him some personal issues. We‟ll get to an issue, of course, that‟s
very big here in Hollywood, this issue on the Kardashians. We‟ll find out more
about that.
Okay. Right back with President Obama right after this.
(Commercial break.)
JAY LENO: Welcome back to our President, President Obama. We‟re going to
talk about some lighter stuff, about dealing with the pressure of being President.
Now, I know you quit smoking.
THE PRESIDENT: I did. I did, definitively.
JAY LENO: It‟s out.
THE PRESIDENT: It‟s out.
JAY LENO: All right. Remember you are under oath.
THE PRESIDENT: I am.
JAY LENO: So tell me how you cope with the daily pressures. How does -THE PRESIDENT: Big on exercise.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Work out in the morning with Michelle. We‟ve got a little
gym in the White House. She‟s in better shape than me, though. So -JAY LENO: And she‟s very competitive.
THE PRESIDENT: She is.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And so it‟s embarrassing sometimes.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. She‟ll get up there a half an hour earlier than me. She
will have already run 10 miles or something.
JAY LENO: You know -THE PRESIDENT: And I‟m, you know -JAY LENO: Speaking of that --
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THE PRESIDENT: -- staggering up to the gym.
JAY LENO: As President, everything is public. And I turned on the news last
night, and I see my President at a very famous restaurant here in Los Angeles
called “Roscoes Chicken and Waffles.” Now, I think you ordered the Country
Boy Special.
What is that?
THE PRESIDENT: Wings and waffles.
JAY LENO: Wings.
THE PRESIDENT: With hot sauce.
JAY LENO: So the fried chicken wings, waffles with syrup, and wings with hot
sauce. Now, is Michelle -- I mean, she‟s sitting back, watching the news. Here
you are scarfing down the waffles.
THE PRESIDENT: Originally, it was just a way to be out there and say hi to
everybody, but -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- once we got in the car, it smelled pretty good.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: So, I mean, I‟m eating the wings. You‟ve got the hot sauce on
there.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: The fancy presidential limousine -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- smelling like chicken.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
(Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: And we were actually going to a fund-raiser -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- with Will Smith and Jada.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And I didn‟t realize it was so close. So, suddenly, we pull up,
and my sleeves were rolled up, and I got a spot on my tie. And my fingers are --
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I‟m looking for one of those Wet Ones, you know, to see if I have chicken on my
teeth.
Anyway, it was not elegant -JAY LENO: No.
THE PRESIDENT: -- but outstanding chicken.
JAY LENO: Outstanding chicken.
THE PRESIDENT: Outstanding chicken and -JAY LENO: Now -THE PRESIDENT: Now, here‟s the secret, though. Here‟s the secret. Michelle,
she‟s done a great job with this healthy eating -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: - and let‟s move and get exercise. But Michelle, as quiet as
this is kept, she loves french fries. She loves pizza. She loves chicken. Her point is
just in moderation.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: So she does not get upset as long as, you know, it‟s not every
day.
JAY LENO: Right, right. Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: And that‟s the theory. She doesn‟t mind the
girls having a -- having a snack, although Halloween is coming up.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And she‟s been giving, for the last few years, kids fruit and
raisins in a bag.
JAY LENO: Ooh.
THE PRESIDENT: And I said, “The White House is going to get egged” -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- “if this keeps up. We are going to” -JAY LENO: Yeah. You‟ve got to go -- yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: “You need to throw some candy in there.”
JAY LENO: Yeah, moderation. Come on. Exactly. Exactly.
THE PRESIDENT: A couple Reese‟s Pieces or something.
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JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.
JAY LENO: Okay. You turned 50 recently.
THE PRESIDENT: I did.
JAY LENO: Okay. Biggest gripe?
THE PRESIDENT: My hair is getting a little gray.
JAY LENO: Yeah, it is getting a little gray, a touch in there, I see.
THE PRESIDENT: But, you know, overall, I feel great. You know, Michelle
thinks I look old, but that‟s okay. She still thinks -- she still thinks I‟m cute.
That‟s what she tells me.
JAY LENO: How are the girls doing, Malia and Sasha?
THE PRESIDENT: The girls are doing wonderfully. You know, they are growing
-- they just grow up so fast. They are thriving. They -- it‟s amazing how steady,
well-mannered, kind they are. You know, they are just good people.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And part of this, I think, is a testimony to Michelle, also
having my mother-in-law in the house -JAY LENO: Oh, yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- because she doesn‟t take any mess. So -JAY LENO: Do they have cell phones?
THE PRESIDENT: We have -- Malia got a cell phone, but they‟re not allowed to
use it during the week just like they are not allowed to watch TV during the week.
JAY LENO: Really? Boo. Boo. Really? Wow.
THE PRESIDENT: During the weekends, they get their TV time, but -JAY LENO: Oh. Speaking of TV time -THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
JAY LENO: -- now, you recently said that you didn‟t like the girls watching the
Kardashians.
THE PRESIDENT: That‟s -JAY LENO: Have you seen the show?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I have not seen the show.
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JAY LENO: Ah-hah. So you are making a judgment without ever seeing the
show.
THE PRESIDENT: I am probably a little biased against reality TV partly because,
you know, there‟s this program on C-SPAN called “Congress” -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- that is -- that I -- that I -- that -- (Laughter and applause.)
No, I have not seen the show. And do you recommend it, Jay? Do you think that -JAY LENO: I just think it‟s a wonderful show. I don‟t know if it‟s something -- I
don‟t know. Has Michelle seen it? Have the girls ever seen it?
THE PRESIDENT: I think the girls have seen it, yeah.
JAY LENO: Now, have you been watching the GOP debates?
THE PRESIDENT: I‟m going to wait until everybody is voted off the island
before -(Applause.)
Once they narrow it down to one or two, I‟ll start paying attention.
JAY LENO: Well, I know you are a huge basketball fan. This lockout, this is
really depressing.
THE PRESIDENT: It‟s heartbreaking.
JAY LENO: What needs to be done here? Who is wrong?
(Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, if you look at the NFL, they were able to settle
theirs.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And I think they understood. Players were making millions of
dollars. Owners, some of us are worth billions of dollars. We should be able to
figure out how to split a nine-billion-dollar pot so that our fans, who are allowing
us to make all of this money, can actually have a good season. And I think the
owners and the basketball players need to think the same way.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Do you think the whole season is going to go? I mean, it‟s two
weeks, and it‟s another -- it‟s a month.
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THE PRESIDENT: I‟m concerned about it. I think they need to just remind
themselves that the reason they are so successful -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- is because a whole bunch of folks out there love basketball.
And, you know, basketball has actually done well, but these kinds of lockouts a
lot of times take a long time to recover from them.
JAY LENO: Exactly. Now, who have you got in the World Series?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, my White Sox are not in there. So I just want to
see a good game.
JAY LENO: I‟m with you.
THE PRESIDENT: I do not take sides unless it‟s my side.
JAY LENO: Wow. Wow.
(Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Do not take sides unless it‟s your side.
JAY LENO: Well, Mr. President, it has been an honor and a privilege to have you
here.
THE PRESIDENT: Always a pleasure.
JAY LENO: Say hello to Michelle and the family. Thank you so much.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.
JAY LENO: We‟ll be right back with music from Yo-Yo Ma.
(Applause.)
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CURRICULUM VITAE
I, Eny Kusrini. I was born on July, 2 nd 1989 in Pati. I am the third child of
my beloved parents, Mr. Khamid and Mrs. Kuswati.
I was graduated from MI Tsamrotul Huda Pohijo in 2001, and I continued
my education level by joining MTs Raudlatul Ulum Guyangan and graduated in
2004. Then, I studied on the next level into MA Raudlatul Ulum Guyangan and
graduated in 2007. Because of my interest in studying English, I decided to
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Obama on ‘Tonight Show’ with Jay Leno: Full video and transcript
By David Nakamura
NBC has released the full video and transcript from President Obama‟s
appearance with Jay Leno Tuesday night, during which he talked about subjects
ranging from Libya policy to what he thinks of Sasha and Malia watching the
Kardashians‟ reality show.
Watch the video and read the transcript after the jump.
THE TONIGHT SHOW WITH JAY LENO
JAY LENO: It‟s an honor and a privilege to welcome my first guest back to the
show. Welcome the 44th President of the United States, President Barack Obama.
(Applause.)
Welcome back.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you. It is good to be back.
JAY LENO: It‟s good to have you back, sir. Of course, the big news this week,
Gaddafi is dead. Rebel forces -- killed by rebel forces. Your reaction? Your take
on this?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, this is somebody who, for 40 years, has terrorized his
country and supported terrorism. And he had an opportunity during the Arab
spring to finally let loose of his grip on power and to peacefully transition into
democracy. We gave him ample opportunity, and he wouldn‟t do it. And,
obviously, you never like to see anybody come to the kind of end that he did, but I
think it obviously sends a strong message around the world to dictators that -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- people long to be free, and they need to respect the human
rights and the universal aspirations of people.
JAY LENO: Now, the mob mentality -- and it was a rebel mob, I guess. It wasn‟t
a government -THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: -- they televised the death. Your thoughts on that?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, obviously, that‟s not something that I think we
should relish. And there was a reason after Bin Laden was killed, for example, we
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didn‟t release the photograph. You know, I think that there‟s a certain decorum
with which you treat the dead even if it‟s somebody who has done terrible things.
JAY LENO: Now, you took some heat for the whole leading-from-behind tactic
here with Libya. Explain that.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, the truth was, we -- this was a phrase that the media
picked up on.
JAY LENO: Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: But it‟s not one that I ever used.
JAY LENO: No.
THE PRESIDENT: We lead from the front. We introduced the resolution in the
United Nations that allowed us to protect civilians in Libya when Gaddafi was
threatening to slaughter them. It was our extraordinary men and women in
uniform, our pilots who took out their air defense systems, set up a no-fly zone. It
was our folks in NATO who were helping to coordinate the NATO operation
there. And the difference here is we were able to organize the international
community. We were able to get the U.N. mandate for the operation. We were
able to get Arab countries involved. And so there was never this sense that
somehow we were unilaterally making a decision to take out somebody. Rather, it
was the world community. And that‟s part of the reason why this whole thing only
cost us a billion dollars -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- as opposed to a trillion dollars. Not a single U.S. troop was
on the ground. Not a single U.S. troop was killed or injured, and that, I think, is a
recipe for success in the future.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Let me ask you about that because, with Osama Bin Laden, I
remember the night before you were at the correspondence dinner and the whole
deal.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: How hard was it to make that decision to send in those Navy
SEALs? because that could have been --
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THE PRESIDENT: It could have been a disaster, but the reason I was able to do it
was -- when you meet these SEALs and you talk to them, they are the best of the
best. They are professional. They are precise. They practice. They train. They
understand what exactly they intend to do. They are prepared for the worst in
almost every circumstance. So even though it was 50/50 that Bin Laden would be
there, I was a hundred percent confident in the men, and I could not have made
that decision were it not for the fact that our men and women in uniform are the
best there is.
They are unbelievable.
JAY LENO: Now, you just announced the troops coming out of -THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: -- Iraq. We have, like -- 4,000, I think, were killed.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah, 4-.
JAY LENO: Billions of dollars spent, nine years. What was accomplished? What
did we accomplish there?
THE PRESIDENT: Look, Saddam Hussein is gone, and that‟s a good thing.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: The Iraqis now have the opportunity to create their own
democracy, their own country, determine their own destiny. And I‟m cautiously
optimistic that they realize that the way they should resolve conflict is not through
killing each other but, rather, through dialogue and discussion and debate. And so
that would not have been possible had it not been for the extraordinary sacrifices
not just of our Armed Forces, but also their families. You know, when you think
about the rotations that over a million of our troops went through -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- and reservists and National Guardsmen and -women and
the strain that that placed on those families during this long period, it‟s
remarkable. So I think Americans can rightly be proud that we have given Iraqis
an opportunity to determine their own destiny, but I also think that policymakers
and future Presidents need to understand what it is that we are getting ourselves
into when we make some of these decisions. And there might have been other
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ways for us to accomplish those same goals. But the main thing right now is to
celebrate the extraordinary work that our men and women did. Having them home
for the holidays for good is going to be a big deal.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Let me ask you now, many members of -- many members of the
GOP opposed withdrawing from Iraq.
THE PRESIDENT: It‟s shocking that they opposed something I proposed.
JAY LENO: But, I mean, wasn‟t it originally -- didn‟t they want to get out of
Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, I don‟t know exactly how they are thinking about
it. You know, as you said, we‟ve been in there for years, over 4,000 young men
and women killed, tens of housands injured, some of them for life, spent close to a
trillion dollars on this operation. I think the vast majority of the American people
feel as if it is time to bring this war to a close -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- particularly because we still have -- (Applause.)
You know, we still have work to do in Afghanistan. We are transitioning to
Afghan lead there. Our guys are still – and gals are still making sacrifices there.
We would not have been able to do as good of a job in decimating al Qaeda‟s
leadership over the last two years if we had still been focused solely on Iraq. And
one of the arguments I made way back in 2007 was, if we were able to bring the
war in Iraq to a close, then that would allow us to go after the folks who
perpetrated 9/11, and obviously, we‟ve been very successful in doing that. We are
not done yet.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: But al Qaeda is weaker than anytime in recent memory. We
have taken out their top leadership position. That‟s been a big accomplishment.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Can I ask you about taking out their top leadership, al-Awlaki, this
guy, American-born terrorist? How important was he to al Qaeda?
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THE PRESIDENT: Do you what happened was we put so much pressure on al
Qaeda in the Afghan/Pakistan region -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- that their affiliates were actually becoming more of a threat
to the United States. So Awlaki was their head of external operations. This is the
guy that inspired and helped to facilitate the Christmas Day bomber. This is a guy
who was actively planning a whole range of operations here in the homeland and
was focused on the homeland. And so this was probably the most important al
Qaeda threat that was out there after Bin Laden was taken out, and it was
important that working with the enemies, we were able to remove him from the
field. (Applause.)
JAY LENO: I‟ll tell you, we are going to take a break. When we come back, I
want to ask you about Hilary Clinton and her role with the President right after
this.
(Commercial break.)
JAY LENO: Welcome back, talking to the President of the United States. So tell
me about Hilary Clinton and the job she‟s doing.
THE PRESIDENT: She has been, I think, as good of a Secretary of State as we‟ve
seen in this country. She‟s been outstanding.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Very good.
THE PRESIDENT: I‟m really proud of her.
JAY LENO: I mean, something I think is really great is the fact that you guys are
both rivals. And I did a lot of jokes about you guys going after each other, but you
come together for the sake of the country. And I thought that was pretty
interesting.
Tell me about how that works.
THE PRESIDENT: You know, it really wasn‟t that difficult. The truth is Hilary
and I agree on the vast majority of issues. We did during the campaign. In fact,
one of the problems with all of those debates was you started running out of stuff
to say because --
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JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- we had a similar world view. She was, I think,
understandably tired after the campaign and hesitant aboutwhether or not this
would be a good fit, and I told her that I had complete confidence in her, that the
country needed her. She stepped up to the plate. She works as hard as anybody
I‟ve ever seen. She is tenacious, and we are really very proud of her.
The entire national security team that we‟ve had has been outstanding, and it‟s not
just rivals within the Democratic party. My Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates, is a
Republican.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: He was a carryover from the Bush Administration.
He made an outstanding contribution. So I think one of the things that we have
done is been able to restore a sense that whatever our politics, when it comes to
our national security, when it comes to the national defense, everybody has to be
on the same page. And so the question now is, as we end the war in Iraq, it is time
for us to rebuild this country, and can we get that same kind of cooperation when
it comes to fixing what‟s wrong here?
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Now, let me ask you something. And this is a fun story. This is stuff
I love, this rumor that Joe Biden and Hilary might swap, and she might run for
Vice President and he might -- is there any -THE PRESIDENT: You know, Joe Biden is not only a great Vice President, but
he has been a great advisor and a great friend to me. So I think that they are doing
great where they are, and both of them are racking up a lot of miles.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Joe tends to go more to Pittsburgh.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: Hilary is going to Karachi.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: But they‟ve both got important work to do. They are doing
great.
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JAY LENO: Yeah. But you don‟t want to say “big f‟ing deal” in Karachi. That
could have some problems. Now, I want to -- now, the approval rating -- the bad
news is your approval rating is 41 percent.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.
JAY LENO: The good news is you are still three times better than Congress. They
are at 13 percent. So explain. I mean -- so if you are grading on a curve -- if you
are grading on a curve, you are killing. You are just killing.
THE PRESIDENT: You know, look, we have gone through the worst financial
crisis, the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. People are hurting
out there, and they‟ve been hurting out there for a while. And people were having
a tough time even before the crisis. You know, incomes, wages, we are all flat.
Costs of everything from college to health care to gas to food, all of it was going
up, and so people were feeling a lot of pressure even before this crisis. And so I -every day I wake up saying to myself, “Look, you can‟t expect folks to feel
satisfied right now.” I‟m very proud of the work that we‟ve done over the last two
or three years, but they are exactly right. We‟ve got more work to do, and that‟s
why, right now, for example, our biggest challenge is to make sure that we are
putting people back to work. We stabilize the economy, but there are not enough
people working. And so we put forward this jobs bill that has proposals that
traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans. I mean, we‟ve
got – we are putting construction workers back to work rebuilding our roads and
our bridges. I suspect folks here this L.A. would say that there are some roads that
could be fixed. You know, that‟s just my guess.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: See, here‟s the problem. And the thing that angers me and I t ink a
lot of Americans is I didn‟t like what they did to President Bush. I don‟t like when
they do it to you. When Mitch McConnell says, “Our goal is to make this guy a
one-time president.” I mean, why -- does that anger you? How is that a goal? That
doesn‟t help the –
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THE PRESIDENT: Look, I think the things that folks across the country are most
fed up with, whether you are a Democrat, Republican, Independent, is putting
party ahead of country or putting the next election ahead of the next generation.
(Applause.)
And so what we need -- there are some real differences between the party in terms
of where we want to take the country. I believe we‟ve got to invest in education
and research and infrastructure in order for us to succeed in the long-term, and I
think that there‟s nothing wrong with us closing the deficit and making our
investments by making sure that folks like you and me who have been incredibly
blessed by this country are doing a little more of a fair share. They have a
different philosophy.
We can argue about that, but on things that, traditionally, we have agreed to like
infrastructure, like tax cuts for small businesses to give them incentives to hire
veterans, on things that traditionally haven‟t been partisan, we should be able to
get together. The election is 13 months away. We‟ve got a lot of time, and the last
thing we need to be doing is saying to the American people that there‟s nothing
we can do until the next election. We‟ve got to do some work right, putting people
backto work.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Well, you are by passing congress now and giving these executive
orders.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.
JAY LENO: Explain that. Explain that.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, if Congress is gridlocked, if the Republicans in
Congress refuse to act, then there is going to be a limit to some of the things we‟d
like to do, but there‟s still some actions that we can take without waiting for
Congress. So yesterday, for example, we announced working with some of the
federal housing agencies. Let‟s make it easier for people to refinance. A lot of
these folks, because their homes are underwater now, their mortgages are higher
than what their homes are worth, a lot of them are having trouble getting
refinanced by their banks. And so they are locked in at high rates when
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ratesshould be a lot lower for them. We‟ve said, “Let‟s figure out a way to waive
some of the fees, waive some of the provisions that are preventing them from
being able to refinance.” And that could mean an extra couple thousand bucks in
people‟s pockets right now. They then have that money to buy a computer for
their kid for school or what have you, and that will get the economy going again.
So we are going to look for opportunities to do things without Congress. We can‟t
afford to keep waiting for them if they are not going to do anything. On the other
hand, my hope is that, at some point, they start listening to the American people,
and we can work with Congress as well.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Well, you are talking about listening to the American people. As
President, you look out your window. Do you see this occupy Wall Street
movement? What do you make of it from your –
THE PRESIDENT: Look, people are frustrated, and that frustration has expressed
itself in a lot of different ways. It expressed itself in the Tea Party. It‟s expressing
itself in occupy Wall Street. I do think that what this -- what this signals is that
people in leadership, whether it‟s corporate leadership, leaders in the banks,
leaders in Washington, everybody needs to understand that the American people
feel like nobody is looking out for them right now. And, traditionally, what held
this country together was this notion that if you work hard, if you are playing by
the rules, if you are responsible, if you are looking out for your family, you are
showing up to work every day and doing a good job, you‟ve got a chance to get
ahead. You‟ve got a chance to succeed. And, right now, it feels to people like the
deck is stacked against them, and the folks in power don‟t seem to be paying
attention to that. So if everybody is tuned in to that message and we are working
every single day to figure out how do we give people a fair shake and how do we
make sure that everybody is doing their fair share, then people won‟t be
occupying the streets because they will have a job and they will feel like they are
able to get ahead. But, right now, they are frustrated. And part of my job over the
next year is to make sure that if they are not seeing it out of Congress at a
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minimum, they are seeing it out of their President, somebody who is going to be
fighting for them.
JAY LENO: We‟ll take a break. When we come back, we‟ll talk more with the
President, ask him some personal issues. We‟ll get to an issue, of course, that‟s
very big here in Hollywood, this issue on the Kardashians. We‟ll find out more
about that.
Okay. Right back with President Obama right after this.
(Commercial break.)
JAY LENO: Welcome back to our President, President Obama. We‟re going to
talk about some lighter stuff, about dealing with the pressure of being President.
Now, I know you quit smoking.
THE PRESIDENT: I did. I did, definitively.
JAY LENO: It‟s out.
THE PRESIDENT: It‟s out.
JAY LENO: All right. Remember you are under oath.
THE PRESIDENT: I am.
JAY LENO: So tell me how you cope with the daily pressures. How does -THE PRESIDENT: Big on exercise.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Work out in the morning with Michelle. We‟ve got a little
gym in the White House. She‟s in better shape than me, though. So -JAY LENO: And she‟s very competitive.
THE PRESIDENT: She is.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And so it‟s embarrassing sometimes.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. She‟ll get up there a half an hour earlier than me. She
will have already run 10 miles or something.
JAY LENO: You know -THE PRESIDENT: And I‟m, you know -JAY LENO: Speaking of that --
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THE PRESIDENT: -- staggering up to the gym.
JAY LENO: As President, everything is public. And I turned on the news last
night, and I see my President at a very famous restaurant here in Los Angeles
called “Roscoes Chicken and Waffles.” Now, I think you ordered the Country
Boy Special.
What is that?
THE PRESIDENT: Wings and waffles.
JAY LENO: Wings.
THE PRESIDENT: With hot sauce.
JAY LENO: So the fried chicken wings, waffles with syrup, and wings with hot
sauce. Now, is Michelle -- I mean, she‟s sitting back, watching the news. Here
you are scarfing down the waffles.
THE PRESIDENT: Originally, it was just a way to be out there and say hi to
everybody, but -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- once we got in the car, it smelled pretty good.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: So, I mean, I‟m eating the wings. You‟ve got the hot sauce on
there.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: The fancy presidential limousine -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- smelling like chicken.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
(Applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: And we were actually going to a fund-raiser -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- with Will Smith and Jada.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And I didn‟t realize it was so close. So, suddenly, we pull up,
and my sleeves were rolled up, and I got a spot on my tie. And my fingers are --
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I‟m looking for one of those Wet Ones, you know, to see if I have chicken on my
teeth.
Anyway, it was not elegant -JAY LENO: No.
THE PRESIDENT: -- but outstanding chicken.
JAY LENO: Outstanding chicken.
THE PRESIDENT: Outstanding chicken and -JAY LENO: Now -THE PRESIDENT: Now, here‟s the secret, though. Here‟s the secret. Michelle,
she‟s done a great job with this healthy eating -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: - and let‟s move and get exercise. But Michelle, as quiet as
this is kept, she loves french fries. She loves pizza. She loves chicken. Her point is
just in moderation.
JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: So she does not get upset as long as, you know, it‟s not every
day.
JAY LENO: Right, right. Okay.
THE PRESIDENT: And that‟s the theory. She doesn‟t mind the
girls having a -- having a snack, although Halloween is coming up.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And she‟s been giving, for the last few years, kids fruit and
raisins in a bag.
JAY LENO: Ooh.
THE PRESIDENT: And I said, “The White House is going to get egged” -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- “if this keeps up. We are going to” -JAY LENO: Yeah. You‟ve got to go -- yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: “You need to throw some candy in there.”
JAY LENO: Yeah, moderation. Come on. Exactly. Exactly.
THE PRESIDENT: A couple Reese‟s Pieces or something.
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JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.
JAY LENO: Okay. You turned 50 recently.
THE PRESIDENT: I did.
JAY LENO: Okay. Biggest gripe?
THE PRESIDENT: My hair is getting a little gray.
JAY LENO: Yeah, it is getting a little gray, a touch in there, I see.
THE PRESIDENT: But, you know, overall, I feel great. You know, Michelle
thinks I look old, but that‟s okay. She still thinks -- she still thinks I‟m cute.
That‟s what she tells me.
JAY LENO: How are the girls doing, Malia and Sasha?
THE PRESIDENT: The girls are doing wonderfully. You know, they are growing
-- they just grow up so fast. They are thriving. They -- it‟s amazing how steady,
well-mannered, kind they are. You know, they are just good people.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And part of this, I think, is a testimony to Michelle, also
having my mother-in-law in the house -JAY LENO: Oh, yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- because she doesn‟t take any mess. So -JAY LENO: Do they have cell phones?
THE PRESIDENT: We have -- Malia got a cell phone, but they‟re not allowed to
use it during the week just like they are not allowed to watch TV during the week.
JAY LENO: Really? Boo. Boo. Really? Wow.
THE PRESIDENT: During the weekends, they get their TV time, but -JAY LENO: Oh. Speaking of TV time -THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
JAY LENO: -- now, you recently said that you didn‟t like the girls watching the
Kardashians.
THE PRESIDENT: That‟s -JAY LENO: Have you seen the show?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I have not seen the show.
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JAY LENO: Ah-hah. So you are making a judgment without ever seeing the
show.
THE PRESIDENT: I am probably a little biased against reality TV partly because,
you know, there‟s this program on C-SPAN called “Congress” -JAY LENO: Right.
THE PRESIDENT: -- that is -- that I -- that I -- that -- (Laughter and applause.)
No, I have not seen the show. And do you recommend it, Jay? Do you think that -JAY LENO: I just think it‟s a wonderful show. I don‟t know if it‟s something -- I
don‟t know. Has Michelle seen it? Have the girls ever seen it?
THE PRESIDENT: I think the girls have seen it, yeah.
JAY LENO: Now, have you been watching the GOP debates?
THE PRESIDENT: I‟m going to wait until everybody is voted off the island
before -(Applause.)
Once they narrow it down to one or two, I‟ll start paying attention.
JAY LENO: Well, I know you are a huge basketball fan. This lockout, this is
really depressing.
THE PRESIDENT: It‟s heartbreaking.
JAY LENO: What needs to be done here? Who is wrong?
(Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Well, look, if you look at the NFL, they were able to settle
theirs.
JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: And I think they understood. Players were making millions of
dollars. Owners, some of us are worth billions of dollars. We should be able to
figure out how to split a nine-billion-dollar pot so that our fans, who are allowing
us to make all of this money, can actually have a good season. And I think the
owners and the basketball players need to think the same way.
(Applause.)
JAY LENO: Do you think the whole season is going to go? I mean, it‟s two
weeks, and it‟s another -- it‟s a month.
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THE PRESIDENT: I‟m concerned about it. I think they need to just remind
themselves that the reason they are so successful -JAY LENO: Yeah.
THE PRESIDENT: -- is because a whole bunch of folks out there love basketball.
And, you know, basketball has actually done well, but these kinds of lockouts a
lot of times take a long time to recover from them.
JAY LENO: Exactly. Now, who have you got in the World Series?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, my White Sox are not in there. So I just want to
see a good game.
JAY LENO: I‟m with you.
THE PRESIDENT: I do not take sides unless it‟s my side.
JAY LENO: Wow. Wow.
(Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Do not take sides unless it‟s your side.
JAY LENO: Well, Mr. President, it has been an honor and a privilege to have you
here.
THE PRESIDENT: Always a pleasure.
JAY LENO: Say hello to Michelle and the family. Thank you so much.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.
JAY LENO: We‟ll be right back with music from Yo-Yo Ma.
(Applause.)
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CURRICULUM VITAE
I, Eny Kusrini. I was born on July, 2 nd 1989 in Pati. I am the third child of
my beloved parents, Mr. Khamid and Mrs. Kuswati.
I was graduated from MI Tsamrotul Huda Pohijo in 2001, and I continued
my education level by joining MTs Raudlatul Ulum Guyangan and graduated in
2004. Then, I studied on the next level into MA Raudlatul Ulum Guyangan and
graduated in 2007. Because of my interest in studying English, I decided to
continue my study in Muria Kudus University by taking English Education
Department of Teacher Training and Education Faculty in 2008.
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STATEMENT
I, Eny Kusrini (2008-32-204) state that my skripsi entitled: Speech
Function Analysis of the Obama and Jay Leno‟s Interview on NBC „Tonight
Show‟ is ended the scientific work of mine. However, I just take some certain
quotations from others‟ scientific works as my references.
I‟m fully responsible for this statement.
Kudus, July 2012
The writer
Eny Kusrini