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GURU AND
MOTHER

MOTHER AND
GURU
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Mother
told us many times how difficult it was to be a Mother ánd
a Guru at the same time. She hád to be a Mother, because
Adi Shakti is the Mother-aspect of Shri Sadashiva, but
because of the weaknesses of the human beings She also
couldn’t be other than a Guru, who attributed Herself the
task to take away the stunning ignorance of those who
wanted to be Her disciples, whom, as a Mother, She called
Her children.

“You see, there’s a Sanskrit scholar here, but
the greatest Guru is the Mother, don’t you
think so? The Mother is the Guru of the
gurus. But it’s very difficult, because guru is

a hard stuff, you see. A mother has to be very
soft, kind, gentle to manage the show, but
the guru can be very hard and they are very
hard people, but Mother as a guru is a
difficult task, it’s very enjoyable.”
Public Program, Hammersmith Town Hall, London, 28.11.1985

A guru is not influenced by the behaviour of his disciples.
In the case of a Mother-Guru, who is also Adi Shakti, it is different.
She takes Her children-disciples into Her body and because they
are living cells, they dó have a considerable influence on the wellbeing of their Mother.

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“So, I have to make now a very, very request,
as a Mother, to all of you, that you have to be
worthy [as] My children. Say now, I’m going
to seventy-eight and still I am working very
hard. Since I’ve come to Los Angeles, I’ve
been sick. What is the reason? I am never

sick. I felt very weak. I couldn’t walk. Why?
Well, what has happened? Because you
people are weak. You are My children. You
are part and parcel of My body. You are not
only that, but you’re cells of My body. If you
are weak, I’ll become weak.”
Los Angeles Ashram Talk, USA, 03.12.2000

1. What the term “guru”means
गगशब्दस्त्वन्धककारर स्यकातत रशब्दस्तनन्निररोधकर।
अन्धककारननिररोनधत्वकातत गगरनरत्यनभिधधीयतते॥ १६॥
The syllable gu means darkness, the syllable ru, he who dispels it,
because of the power to dispel darkness, the guru is thus named.
 Advayataraka Upanishad, Verse 16

“Guru is a Sanskrit term that connotes someone who is a ‘teacher, guide, expert,
or master’ of certain knowledge or field. In pan-Indian traditions, guru is someone
more than a teacher, in Sanskrit Guru means the one who dispels the darkness
and takes towards light, traditionally a reverential figure to the student, with
the guru serving as a ‘counselor, who helps mold values, shares experiential

knowledge as much as literal knowledge, an exemplar in life, an inspirational
source and who helps in the spiritual evolution of a student’. The term also refers
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to someone who primarily is one's spiritual guide, who helps one to discover the
same potentialities that the gurus already realized.
The oldest references to the concept of guru are found in the earliest Vedic texts
of Hinduism. The guru, and gurukul – a school run by guru, were an established
tradition in India by the 1st millennium BCE, and these helped compose and
transmit the various Vedas, the Upanishads, texts of various schools of Hindu
philosophy, and post-Vedic Shastras ranging from spiritual knowledge to various
arts. By about mid 1st millennium CE, archaeological and epigraphical evidence
suggest numerous larger institutions of gurus existed in India, some near Hindu
temples, where guru-shishya tradition helped preserve, create and transmit
various fields of knowledge. These gurus led broad ranges of studies including
Hindu scriptures, Buddhist texts, grammar, philosophy, martial arts, music and
painting. (…) Guru is not just a person but it is considered as the divine guiding
energy which helps humanity to realize its true nature. This energy works
through an able person who is pure enough to hold it. This is the reason in
Hinduism Guru is considered as God himself.” [Note: They have realized God –

the Divine Principle - in themselves.]
Wikipedia

यस्य दतेवते परका भिनकतर यथका दतेवते तथका गगरर ।
तस्ययैतते कनथतका ह्यथकारर पतरककाशन्तते महकात्मनिर ॥ २३ ॥
He who has highest Bhakti (love, devotion) of Deva (god),
just like his Deva, so for his Guru, to him who is high-minded,
these teachings will be illuminating.
Shvetashvatara Upanishad 6.23

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Adi Shakaracharya with disciples

“The teacher is one who is endowed with the power of furnishing arguments pro
and con, of understanding questions [of the student], and remembers them. The
teacher possesses tranquility, self-control, compassion and a desire to help
others, who is versed in the Śruti texts (Vedas, Upanishads), and unattached to
pleasures here and hereafter, knows the subject and is established in that
knowledge. He is never a transgressor of the rules of conduct, devoid of

weaknesses such as ostentation, pride, deceit, cunning, jugglery, jealousy,
falsehood, egotism and attachment. The teacher's sole aim is to help others and
a desire to impart the knowledge.”
Adi Shankara, Upadesha Sahasri 1.6

1.

Former gurus – The Guru in Sahaja Yoga

“So, the difference between the ancient
times guru and modern times guru is that the
ancient time gurus didn't care if they gave
realizations to people, it was not their style most of them. Only they cared for
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themselves, nicely sitting down somewhere
in the Himalayas, away from all the madding
crowd, and enjoying themselves! But you
must share this enjoyment. I think that is the
sign of a good guru. The one who cannot

share, only looks after his own pleasures, or
looks after his own ashram, we can call it, or
looks after his own family, looks after maybe
some disciples he has - attention has to be
for the whole world!
In Sahaja Yoga, now, it has reached such a
stage that you have to worry about the
complete humanity. It's not only you, or a few
Sahaja yogis, or many more Sahaja yogis, but
all over the world; whatever is the problem,
you people have to solve it. But first get out
of your own little, little problems.
(…)
Formerly guru meant a person who is
standing with a big stick. He used to hit
everyone. Anybody did anything wrong - they
used to hit and beat them. We had gurus in
music also, and different, different types of
gurus we had in our country. And their
speciality was that they used to absolutely

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oppress the disciple, control, and then teach
the knowledge of music, maybe; maybe
wrestling, maybe anything. But in Sahaja
Yoga it's very different. Even the spiritual
gurus who were real were like that. Very
harsh. They used to throw stones at such
people. All kinds of things they used to do but then they didn't mean anything bad (by
it), but the method I didn’t like.”
Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy, 08.07.2001

“So, the main difference between the old
style of guru and the modern style of guru is
this - that the old gurus used to [say]: you
must suffer. "All right, you have to be
arrested ,is very good. If they give you
poison, take the poison. If they want to slap
you, take slaps. Whatever they want to do,
you should accept because [it] is your

suffering." Not in Sahaj Yog because your
Mother is sitting here. How dare anybody
touch you. No one can harm you. You have to
believe Me when I say that. No one can harm
you, but you must have that faith within
yourself. Nobody had Adi Shakti as the Guru.
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- Adi Shakti, the one who has all the powers
of the world. So, who can harm you? Who can
torture you? Who can trouble you except for
yourself? If you want to torture yourself,
nobody can harm you.”
Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy, 04.07.1993

“AND YOUR GURU IS
A
Navaratri Evening Talk, Cabella, Italy, 04.10.1

MOTHER…”

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1. Mother and Guru – Guru and Mother

“So, the love of a person should not be such
that it should spoil people. Say now, if I'm
your Mother, I love you very much. You know
that very well and you also love Me, but if I
have to correct you, I have to have courage
to correct you and tell you what I want you to
do. You need not get into temper or anger. I
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seldom - I think very seldom I really get angry
with people. But you have to tell them.”
Talk at Picnic, Cove Lane River Park, Australia, 05.04.1994

The gurus of former times were almost only interested in their
own spiritual ascent and didn’t care about other people, except for

one or at the most a few disciples. The “world” or “humanity” was
not their business; they escaped from the world to live in a quiet
isolated place, for instance in a cave in the Himalayas. We could
maybe call them: ego oriented spiritual seekers.

“So, if it has happened, just take it up: "All
right. Doesn't matter. Mother forgives
everyone. It has happened, has happened.
This is a lesson for me. It was something
because of it happened and, now, I'm back."
And then you become sometimes a better
Sahaja yogi than many of others.”
Mahamaya Puja, Auckland, New Zealand, 10.11.1994

The very first quality a guru should develop is wisdom and wisdom
is bestowed on us by Shri Ganesha, who was first of all created by
Shri Gauri to introduce wisdom and its derivative qualities in Shri
Adi Shakti’s creation.

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“You may again say that: “We don’t
understand Mother’s style. She’s full of
tricks.” – Correct. I am. But there’s a very
simple way of doing it. You can surrender to
My wisdom and the wisdom itself that is in
you is active. It will work. This point also you
should understand.
Wisdom within
you is active.”
Diwali Puja, Cabella, Italy, 10.11.1991
The guru must have control over the tongue 

"...The guru must have control over the
tongue. He must know when to get angry and
when to be gentle. He must know what to say
when, how much to say. That’s why many
gurus have been more effective by not
speaking. Silence is the best way you can
help others, but when it comes to explaining
Sahaja Yoga, you should speak. But I have
seen with some people - they are very
eloquent when it comes to nonsensical
things, but when it comes to Sahaja Yoga,
they don’t know anything about Sahaja Yoga.
So, you have to be the master of Sahaja Yoga,
if you have to be a guru, not only in talking,
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but in your behavior, in everything. And the
karamat is the … I don’t know if you use
charismatic-word, charismatic they call it, or
you say, the
one [who knows] how to do it, how to raise
the Kundalini, how to put it at the Sahasrara,
how to break the Sahasrara, all these things
you must know, how to spend your
knowledge is viniyoga in Sanskrit."
                                               Guru

Puja, Lodge Hill, UK, 24.07.1983 

“To worship your Guru in person is regarded
as the highest blessing. But in My case it is a
very different combination that I am your
Mother and your Guru. So, you can
understand how Shri Ganesha worshipped his
Mother. You all are created in the same image
of Shri Ganesha who worshipped his Mother
and then he became the Adi Guru, the first
Guru. He is the primordial essence of
mastery. Only the Mother can make the child
a master. And the motherhood in any guru,
wether male or female, can only make the
disciple a guru. So,first you have to become
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prophets and develop that motherhood
within yourself; then you can make others
also prophets. Now to become a guru, what
do we have to do after our realization? Guruword means gravity. Gravity means a person
who is grave, who is deep, who is magnetic.
Now,you have learnt in Sahaja Yoga that
realization takes place in complete
effortlessness. So, normally a guru tries to
make his disciples effortless, which is called
as Prayatna Shaithilya, means ''relax your
efforts...".
(…)
That is not the attitude of a guru. What a
guru does, is to purify himself and others and
give those flowers to the deity. Until you all
become gurus, I am your Guru. But once you
become a guru, then I become your Deity.
(…)
So, in the third stage, the effort should be to
follow your Guru who is a Sat Guru.
(…)
Now, the higher stage is that your Guru
becomes a Deity. When you say: Guru
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Brahma, Guru Vishnu, Guru DevoMahéshwara, they go up to that point, but
nobody says ‘Guru Devi’. You can have a
higher stage than Brahma, Vishnu, Mahésha,
because the Guru stage is where you have
the innocence of all these, Brahma, Mahésha
and Vishnu, their power of innocence. But
then ultimately it says: GURU SAKSHAT
PARABRAHMA. And Parabrahma is the power
of the Mother. That is flowing through you.
So, you become the instrument of that
Parabrahma. But how ? Not only by becoming
yourself, but now becoming the reflector of
your Deity, to develop yourself into the
reflector from Guru to that stage. At that
stage you start controlling all the elements.
That is why all these incarnations of Adi Guru
had control over elements. Brahmadeva is
absolutely manifested through them. So, out
of Ganesha who is the Adi Guru, he is born, or
he is manifested through these three:
Brahma, Vishnu, Mahésha. And then he
comes out as Brahmadeva with four heads,
three of Brahma, Vishnu, Mahésha, and the
fourth of Shri Ganesha. So Brahmadeva
becomes the symbol of Guru, and, as you
know, Shri Ganesha is 'chatvari', is ‘four’ all
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the time, he becomes these four. In
expression. In manifestation. And as you
become Brahmadeva at that stage, you
control all the elements.
(…)
Today I bless you. I have completed the
twelve years of Guru, and you should really
assume the Shiva powers within yourself. I,
that is my body, my mind, my heart,
everything, has spared no efforts to
completely indulge into this cleansing, into
this making, into this becoming of you all. I
request you now that: please do not waste
My efforts. Look at yourself, help yourself and
try to rise higher and higher, become your
Self. When you become your Self, then you
become the guru. And once you become the
guru, you become Brahmadeva, Mahesha and
Vishnu. So first you are made in the pattern
of Ganesha, then Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu.
But very much depends on your readiness to
do it and most of all on your honesty and
sincerity. I hope Shri Ganesha will give you
the wisdom to understand, the Shakti will
give you shakti to work hard, and Shiva will
give you joy,
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Sadashiva will give you the joy so that you
will proceed in your establishment.
May God bless you all !”
Guru Puja, Leysin, Switzerland, 14.07.1984

“Yogi: He’s asking about any dangers of
Kundalini meditation.
Shri Mataji: No, no, no, no, no. Not at all. Not
at all. She’s your mother. She’s your
individual mother, who gives you your second
birth. She knows everything about you. She
has recorded everything and She does it very
gently. See, when you were born, your
mother took all the pains upon herself, isn’t
it? And in the same way, this Kundalini does
the job. But people are frightened because
perhaps maybe they don’t want … it’s an evil
force, I think, those who are frightened
against Kundalini because they don’t know
how to do it, or maybe they don’t want
people to achieve their realization. I can’t
understand.”
Public Program, Philadelphia, USA, 15.08.1993

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Our Guru, who is a Sat-Guru, will always protect us.

“How can you be worried when your Mother is

sakshat Mahakali. She can kill all the demons,
She can finish all of them. She knows how to
manage things and when you are like a child
before Her, how can you worry about it! So,
your worries are finished. She worries about
you, you shouldn't worry about yourself.
That's the point in it. Her security is so great,
She is so secure Herself that She gives you all
the security that you need. You can hold on
to Her feet, you can hold on to Her image or
to anything, you can even pray to Her.”
Navaratri Puja, Cabella, Italy, 17.10.1999

How to become one’s own master?

“Now, put your right hand in the upper part
of your abdomen. Close your eyes. Now, here
on the left hand side, press it. Now, here
Mother has given me the Spirit, and I have
my own guru, which is the Spirit. I'm master
of my own. Let there be no abandonment. Let
there be dignity in my character. Let there be
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generosity in my behavior. Let there be
compassion, love for other Sahaja yogis. Let
me not show off, but have a deep, deep
knowledge about God's love and His doings.
So that when people come to me, I should be
able to tell them about Sahaja Yoga and give
them this great knowledge with humility and
love.”
Introspection, Shudy Camps, UK, 18.06.1988

“So, the left side starts and ends with Shri
Ganesha. Shri Ganesha has only basic one
quality - that He is completely surrendered to
His Mother. He does not know any other God.
He does not even know His father. He only
knows His Mother and [is] completely
surrender [ed] to Her. But this pure desire
has to have action and about which I will tell
you later as we will be having more Pujas and
more Pujas. But today let us establish
ourselves into that pure desire to be the
Spirit. Now, as it is, the Western mind will
say: How ? It always comes [to]: How to do
it ? Should I tell you, it is very simple! Adi
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Shankaracharya wrote “Vivek Chudamani”
and so many other books and treatises, and
then all these big intellectuals got after his
life and they said: ‘Have this and have that
and have it.’ He said:”Forget these people.”
Then he wrote “Saundarya Lahari” - just the
description of his Mother and his devotion to
Her. And every couplet that he wrote, is a
mantra. It is not the surrender of your mind
through your mind, but the surrender of your
heart. It is absolutely the surrender of your
heart. Western Sahaja yogis know very well
how there have been attacks and attacks of
negativity on them, specially when the
horrible people like Freud came to destroy
their basics, the roots. And how the West
accepted it blindfolded and put them on the
path of hell. All that has to be brought out.
That is all nonsense, is wrong absolutely, and
that is the anti-God activity. Then you will
realize that you will fight fully, say: “This is
the destruction of our basics, our roots. When
our Mother is the source of everything that is
sublime, noble, all that is nourishing, all that
is elevating, emancipating, you are cutting us
from our roots.” You have been dealt with, I
think, as animal-like creature and he wants
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all of us to go down to that low level of
human beings, which exist as pathological
cases, I don’t know. So, it is important for
you to understand all attacks that came on
you and be alert and don’t be identified with
anyone of them.”
Mahakali Puja, Lonawala, India, 19.12.1982

“It´s rather embarrassing for Me to tell you
how you have to behave towards your Guru. I
think people have told you. But naturally,
spontaneously, as soon as you get your
realization and grow in it - naturally you
develop a very humble attitude. Also an
attitude through which you achieve lots of
qualities of your Guru. Now, supposing the
Guru is at a particular height, and if you try
to go on to the same height, nothing will
move towards you. So, you must sit at a place
which is much lower than the Guru´s. Some
people take too much advantage of My good
nature, I should say. And so many people
have pointed out to Me that you must correct
these people, they talk to you at [an] equal
level and all that. I said: “They will learn a
lesson, they will learn a lesson“, but
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sometimes it doesn´t work out and they start
talking in the same manner as if they are
talking to your friend, or to your equal. First
is complete humility. You have to be a humble
person, extremely humble. Now you check on
that: When you talk to others, are you
humble? When you think of others, are you
humble? When you look after your wife and
children, are you humble? That´s a very
important thing for every person who thinks
he is a guru. Humility is the first quality, or I
should say, the ocean into which you must
jump. Some people think that: “If you are
humble, Mother, then people will take
advantage of you.” Nobody can take
advantage of you because you have to
remember another point, that you are
protected all the time, looked after by
Paramchaitanya.”
Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy, 20.07.1997

“It's such a pleasure for Me to be your
Mother, and to be able to communicate the
Divine, the powers of Divine, the beauty of
Divine to you. It was never possible before,
as you know; everyone tried their level best
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but nobody could achieve it, to communicate
that beauty. As you know Sahaja Yoga or this
"Mahayoga" is a very unique system which
never existed before. It has come into
existence, of course, I should say that,
because the 'Para Brahma' decided to take a
form, but you also all decided to come on this
earth to receive the bliss.”
Birthday Puja, Chelsham Road, London, UK, 21.03.1982

“Now, to believe in a Mother, Adi Shakti, was
impossible. Especially, you´ll be amazed that
Christian religion, somehow or another
avoided the mentioning of the mother. Then
the Islam, that also avoided the mentioning
of the mother. This complete negation
towards the mother. But only Indian
philosophy had the mother and the Indians
are actually Shakti worshippers. So, this is
how it was kept up and brought to this
position now. That people have got full idea
as to Mother principle that has worked out
everything. On this Mother principle, in India
people are very sure that it´s the Mother who
does everything and thus we have in India
many, we should say, many Swayambhus,
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means: things that are created of the mother
earth. For example, you know in Maharastra
we have got Mahakali´s place,
Mahasaraswati, Mahalakshmi and also we
have got a place for the Adi Shakti. Some
people who have been to Nasik must have
seen Saptashringi. How many people have
been to Saptashringi out of you? It´s good. So
this Saptashringi represents the Adi Shakti.
Adi Shakti which is the fourth dimension of
this power which gives you the ascent and
ultimately through Mahalakshmi channel only
you get your realization.”
Adi Shakti Puja, Cabella, Italy, 21.06.1998

“They are my children, as a Mother, not as a
Guru. For a Guru they don’t have problem.
And then the stirring up comes in, within
Myself that: “No, even if I have to give up,
doesn’t matter, I have to raise, absolutely“.
And with that power it works. So the
reflection should be of Me, of something that
is ideal before you; the one that gives you
energy - like this song, - and not the
reflection of a miserable person. Christ
standing before you, as in the Sistine Chapel;
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and not some miserable skeleton, which is
even worse than you. So, create those images
of your Mother which you should see in your
emotions, and rise. This is the second type of
attention you have to control.”
Assume your Position Seminar, Lodge Hill, London, UK, 23.07.1983

“Today we are here to know about guru
principle. What does a guru do? Whatever
you have, all the precious things within you,
he discovers them for your knowledge.
Actually it is all there. Everything. All the
knowledge, all the spirituality, all the joy, is
there – (little laughter as a dog walks on
stage) right time (more laughter). It is all
contained within you. Only thing the guru
does [is that he] makes you knowledgeable
about your knowledge, about your own spirit.
Everyone has the Spirit within himself.
Everyone has the spirituality within himself.
There is nothing that you get from outside.
But before getting this knowledge, you are
living in ignorance. In that ignorance you do
not know what treasure you have got within
yourself. So the guru’s job is to make you
know what you are. That is the first step.
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That it starts, that awakening within you by
which you know that you are not this outside
world - this is all an illusion. And you start
getting enlightened within yourself. Some
people get the full light and some people get
it gradually.
(…)
All this knowledge comes to you,
spontaneously it is within you, because it is
all your own. Also if your guru tells you, you
are guided. Guru’s job is to guide people.”
Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy, ??

“Your Guru is a Mother first and then a Guru;
And that has given Me a greater help. We
have had before also many Guru Pujas,
mostly in England, and you should wonder
why Mother always somehow is doing Guru
Puja in London.
The time falls in such a way that it is in Guru
Puja, I'm here. During that time, I have to be
in London. So many years you have been
doing Guru Puja in England. All things happen
if according to Ritambhara Pragnya, then
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there must be some reason why Mother is
here, in England for a Guru Puja. It is stated
in the Puranas that the Adi Guru Dattatréya
worshipped Mother along the banks of the
River Tamasa. Tamasa is the same as your
Thames. And He himself came and
worshipped here. And the Druids, those who
had the manifestation of the Stonehenge and
all that, are originated from that time, in this
great country of Shiva, or the Spirit.
So the Spirit resides here, as in the heart of
human beings, and the Sahasrara is in the
Himalayas, where Sadashiva exists at the
Kailasha. This is the great secret of we
having so many Guru Pujas here. To
culminate it today into this special type of
Guru Puja, in the year of the 60th Birthday of
your Mother, which has a special, very very
special significance, because is the Guru
Sashthi, is the sixty years of your Guru has
been celebrated today; and that's how it's a
very big occasion that you all have gathered
under the influence of again Ritambhara
Pragnya.”
Guru Puja, Lodge Hill, UK, 24.07.1983

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“QUESTION: Who is your guru? [???] ...I believe
that everyone has a guru, when they do start
in a particular step. Did you have a guru who
you admired or did you just…?
SHRI MATAJI:

I was born like that.”
Press Conference, Vancouver, Canada, 27.06.1999

“But the most indiscrete thing about Nabhi is
that you don't listen to your Guru. Hundred
times you tell something to Sahaja yogis, but
still they will not listen to Me. Still, they will
do as the fashion tells them or the norms that
they have. Listening to your Guru, as they
say, as if is to obey the God Almighty.
Whatever is said, is to be accepted as a great
blessing, as a great correction and is to be
followed, not to be just left out as it is. As
you know, your Mother is your Guru and She
is your Mother. Also She's Mahamaya. Also
She's Adi Shakti. And She's so gentle and
She's so kind. She says some things to you to
correct you. So many lectures I've given of
telling you what is important. But you should
open your heart and surrender it fully to your
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Guru, then only you'll mature, otherwise
there is no way out. I'm sorry to say. I do not
like anybody surrendering to Me, or touching
My Feet, or falling at Me. I don't understand
that. I mean, I'm not conscious of it, not
aware of it, makes no difference to Me. Even
when you sing My "Jai," I think you are
singing some Mataji Nirmala Devi's “Jai”, in a
third person, and sometimes I'm afraid I
might say "Jai" with you. When you're singing
Swagatam, I always think there's some Mataji
Nirmala Devi's Swagat song they're singing,
somebody else. But for your goodness, for
your ascent for which you have come here you have not come here just to waste your
time, but to ascend, and for that, it is
important that whatever I am saying, you
have to obey implicitly. But I never say
anything which will be uncomfortable for you.
I never say: “You don't take your food or
don't drink water” - nothing of the kind. But,
out of laziness, people just don't do many
things or, if not laziness, then just they do
not know how important it is. Or else they
feel nervous.

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So, the discretion is that guru is Parabrahma
- any Sat Guru. But what about the
Parabrahma itself, which is your Guru? I do
not say things as hearty as the gurus used to
do it. I mean, if you read about them, you'll
be shocked. But, whatever I say, every
word ,you must note, is for your benevolence
and for the benevolence of the whole world.
And, by not obeying that, you are not only
spoiling your own chances, but the chances
of the whole world. So, you understand how
important it is if you are the disciple, if you
are blessed by your Guru. All these things are
written about them, but I say not only that
you are My disciples, but you have got your
realization. You are Sahaja yogis. You got all
the powers. You know each and everything.
You are so special people.
For such people, there should not be any
difference of opinion, because you're the
same thing all the time. So, there cannot be
any fight, there cannot be any quarrel, there
cannot be any argument. But the discretion
should be that,: "Our guru is a Mother. She's
very mild. She's very gentle. She's very kind.
I know that." One day My brother told Me
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that: "What sort of a Guru You are? When my
guru was teaching me tabla, he used to break
the tampura on my head and even [if] one
percussion I would make wrong, he would
bring his hammer and :now I'm going to
break your nails." I said: "There's no need to
do all this, not necessary in Sahaj Yog
because they are self-disciplined." So there
has to be this self-disciplination, as you can
so call it, on the Hamsa Chakra, which is the
one, which knows what is right, what is
wrong, through which we work it out.
Whatever is the right, that's all we do.
Otherwise, we don't do whatever is wrong.
(…)
Only painful part is that, as a Guru, I have to
tell that this is not good, that is not good.
That's the only painful thing. I wish I could
have avoided it somehow, but it's not
possible. Because from the darkness to the
sunlight you have to come out and you're
holding My hand, so I have to tell you
that:”Be careful! It's a very, very small road
and both the sides you can fall off into Ida
and Pingala.”
Vishuddhi Puja, New York City, USA, 28.04.1991
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“It is a common practice, specially in India,
that you must worship your guru. And the
guru has to fully be in control of his disciples.
Guru principle is extremely strict and the
strictness made many people could not
confirm to the ideas of a disciple. In those
days, the guru had to be absolutely the
authority and it was the guru who would
decide which disciples he'll have and one had
to go into great tapasya, to great renounces
to even become a disciple. And this hardship
was the only way the guru used to judge.
Gurus would always live in jungles and they
would select their disciples, very few, very,
very few, and they had to go and beg food
from the neighbouring villages and cook food
for their guru with their own hands and feed
them. That sort of guru business is not in
Sahaja Yoga - that basically we must
understand that the difference between
those styles of guruship and that we have
now is this, that very few individuals were
given the chance to become the guru - very
few. And these few also were selected out of
quite a lot of people and they felt that there
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was something really special that they are
being selected, chosen,and that whatever
they will have to go through is all welcome.
With this idea, they became the disciple.
But Sahaja Yoga is a very different thing. I
would say, just the opposite. First of all, your
Guru is a Mother and who suffers from
Sandra Karuna. At the slightest things that
happen to you, My eyes get filled with tears.

So, as a Mother, to be a Guru is a very
difficult thing. But, at the same time, for you
to achieve heights is also difficult because
you get lost when I love you so much and, in
that love, you forget sometimes that the
progress in your being is very slow. It is
important that in Sahaja Yoga you have to be
strict with yourself. That's why I said that you
have to be your own guru, which people do
not understand what it is. "You have to be
your own guru" means you have to guide
yourself. You have to treat yourself as your
disciple. And you have to trim yourself. If you
do not understand the responsibility as
Sahaja yogis of working it out yourself
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everything, you cannot move very fast
because it is a different type of relationship
between the guru and the disciples.
So, first I always said: You become your own
guru. So you have to make a lot of
introspection and fix your ideas. Before you, I
am sitting. You have seen Me, how I am. I can
eat anything. I need not eat at all for days
together. I can sleep anywhere. I may not
sleep at all. I travel for miles together,
untiringly. I have this energy because I am a
Guru of myself also.
(…)
Today on Guru Puja, you are worshipping your
Guru. At the same time, I bow to your guru
within yourself. Let your guru come out and
show itself, specially the kind of a guru you
have. I am not strict with you. I'm very
gentle. Because, as I told you, fundamentally
is a different thing, is that it is not for an
individual, but it is for the collective.
(…)
Actually, I'm no more a Guru. I was never a
Guru. I am a Mother. I'm [a] hopeless Guru
because a Guru who cannot be strict is
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useless and I have to prepare Myself to say
things, you know. If there's problem between
two people and then if there's some gap of
time where I have to say to them then I start:
"Aah. How to become strict?" I tell Myself.
"How?" Spontaneously, if something comes
in.,I say: "Why are you doing like this?" At the
most, spontaneous.”
Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy, 28.07.1991

“Last time you had asked Me for Gurupada
and you should know that the essence of
Guru is Sri Ganesha, the innocence. You must
be knowing the story of a very devoted wife,
faithful wife of a Sati; her name was Anasuya,
and she was so religious and so dedicated
that they say that the wives of all the Gods Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesha, got very jealous of
her. So they told her husband that: "You must
go and test her, if she is really a woman with
chastity or not." So all of them came down as
sadhus, dressed up like sanyasis. And she
said she wanted to serve them, give them
something. They said: "No. We want to have
food." She said: "All right, come and sit
down." She cooked food for them. So they
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said: "No, we will not have the food unless
and until you take out all your clothes. We
will only have the food if you take out all your
clothes." She said: "Is it so?" They said “yes”.
So she made them into little, little children,
three little children - and then she became
nude. Because innocence doesn't understand
anything about. And then she joined them
together, their three innocence was joined
together and they got their gurupada. That's
how the Adi Guru was created.”
Ganesha Puja, Cabella, Italy, 30.08.1992

“But guru you should only have when you are
seeking God. Otherwise you should not have
any guru. What is the need? You are alright a
human being, but if you want to become
Atma Sakshat, then you have to have
some guru. Now, see, I am their Guru,
naturally I have given them realization. They
have themselves become gurus now, they can
give realization too. But I am their Mother;
this is a very difficult situation: Mother
becomes a Guru, you can imagine, horrible,
horrible job.”
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Guru Puja Evening Talk, Nirmala Palace – Nightingale Lane Ashram, London,
UK, 04.07.1982

“I declare: I am the One who is Adishakti,
who is the Mother of all the mothers, who is
the Primordial Mother, the Shakti, the Desire
of God, who has incarnated on this earth to
give its meaning to itself, to this creation, to
human beings, and I’m sure, through My love
and patience and My powers, I am going to
achieve it. I was the One who was born again
and again, but now in My complete form and
complete powers, I have come on this earth,
not only for salvation of human beings, not
only for their emancipation, but for granting
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them the Kingdom of Heaven, the joy, the
bliss, that your Father wants to bestow upon
you. These words are to be kept within the
bounds of Sahaja yogis only, for the time
being. And today is the day of Guru Puja, not
My Puja, but your Puja as gurus.”
Guru Puja, Dollis Hill Ashram, London, UK, 02.12.1979

“Shri Mataji: No question?
Yogi: Yes, one question, Mother. Are you
a guru or do you have a guru?
Shri Mataji:No,

I had no guru and I’m a Mother,
I’m not a guru. See guru is, of course in a
way Mother is a Guru all the time – she’s a
teacher all the time – no? But there’s a big
difference between a real guru and
a Mother. “
Public Program Day 1, Camberwell Civic Centre, Melbourne, Australia,
12.05.1987

“So, for normal people it could be that: How
is it your Mother is supposed to be a Guru
and She wears all ornaments? But what to
do? She’s also a Mother and She is also a
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Goddess. Another confusion. How to make
these two things be? “
Shudy Camps Park, London, UK, 12.07.1987

“First of all, your Guru is a Mother and who
suffers from Sandrakaruna. At the slightest
things that happen to you My eyes get filled
with tears. So, as a Mother to be a Guru is a
very difficult thing. At the same time, for you
to achieve heights is also difficult. Because
you get lost when I love you so much and in
that love you forget sometimes, that the
progress in your being is very slow. It is
important that in Sahaja Yoga you have to be
strict with yourself. That’s why I said that you
have to be your own guru, which people do
not understand what it means. “
Guru Puja, Cabella, Italy, 28.07.1991

“So, a guru has to be the mother, he must
have the qualities of the mother not the
modern mothers, but in the real sense of the
word. That is, a Guru has to love her children
and has to have strength and courage to
correct her children. And the earnest desire
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should be to put the children onto proper
lines to guide them and to help them to
rise. “
Guru Puja, Lago di Braies, Italy, 23.07.1989

“Most of the gurus, when they do it, they
actually chisel out every disciple. First they
weigh what is the urge of a disciple, how
much a disciple really can receive, and then
they accept somebody as a disciple after
verifying if the disciple is really capable of
receiving even the instructions about
dharma. But not in Sahaja Yoga because
your Guru is a Mother. So, She initiates you
without finding out what is your urge, what is
your capability and what quality of a
personality you have. It’s a very different
style of Guru that you have, which looks after
your body, looks after your mind and looks
after your problems and then bestows upon
you the blessings of Kundalini awakening. “
Guru Puja, Finchly Ashram, London, UK, 21.07.1978

“ So, we can’t have darkness and light
together. Because, I’m not a Guru, I’m
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your Mother. Actually, I want you to be your
own guru. But if you have a nice good guru,
who has given you initiation, in the sense
that he’s awakened your Kundalini, it makes
My life easier. That we’ll know in one minute,
even a child can say. You see, some of
these gurus can give you blisters. All, most of
the cancer patients, are initiated by some
sort of a thing like this, like black magic,
or gurus, or ESP’s, or what you call them,
mesmerism. “
Public Program, Lille, France, 02.05.1982

“But, as it is, you know that we need spiritual
education. Because your Guru is a Mother, we
lack discipline. There’s complete freedom for
all of you. “
Guru Nanak’s Birthday Puja, Temple of all Faith, Hampstead, London,
23.11.1980

“Question: Who is Your guru?
Shri Mataji: Nobody. I have no guru, I’m a Mother.
I don’t need any guru and I have been like
this since ages now. I’m very ancient. Question:
[inaudable]
Shri Mataji: That’s My own. I have no guru,
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neither I ever had, but I have the guru, I call
him as Dattatreya, if that is so, but that is
also within Me. In My stomach is the Guru.
You ask this question: “Mother, have You
any guru?” Just ask this question in your
hand [with vibrations], and you will know it.
To know Me is not so easy because I’m very
elusive, extremely elusive person you can
think of, you see. So just now, you just know
yourself. All right? When you will have that
awareness, you will know Me. “
The Three Paths of Evolution, Caxton Hall, London, UK, 30.05.1979

“Now, in Sahaja Yoga we don’t allow any
Sahaja yogi to call himself a guru. Because all
of you are My children; I am your Mother. You
all become your own gurus. You don’t need
any guru anymore. Now this guru tattwa is
also spoilt very much when you denounce
God. When you also accept wrong gurus and
put this forehead at the horrible feet of these
horrible gurus, then you develop a terrible
chakra here, called as Ekadasha Rudra. “
Sahaja Yoga Free Hall, Mumbai, India, 23.02.1982

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This is how we can become a guru
Guru Puja: Establishing the Guru Principle, Nightingale Lane
Ashram, London, UK,04.07.1982

“In the most auspicious time that is called as
Krita Yuga, we all have assembled here to
understand the ways and methods of
establishing our Principle of a Master. Krita
Yuga. “Krita Yuga” means the time when you
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have to do something – “krita: when it was
done.”
So you are the channels of that doing, doing
the work of God. You are the channels of God
Almighty and His Power. On one side you
have to carry the dignity, the glory, and the
assumption that you are a guru. On the other
side you have to be completely surrendered
to your God Almighty. All your dignity, your
authority comes from Him. And the third
thing is that the way He has created this
universe and you, in a mood of play, you have
to see His play. So a kind of mood that is
cheerfulness should be really bubbling
through you.
So far the idea of guru was that such a
person never laughs, never smiles, always in
a temper. That was all right for gurus who did
not have to have any contact with the public,
but hanged themselves with a string
somewhere in the Himalayas. But here we
are, facing the entire universe that has to
receive the bubbling streams of your love.
But that does not mean that you have to be
frivolous, because you cannot be. The divine
play is not frivolous, it is joyful, and the joy
does not have that duality. So to get to the
establishment of your Guru Principle, first we
should know how it is destroyed. As it is,
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anything that is not looked after or
maintained, gets destroyed. If we do not pay
attention, say, to these beautiful plants here,
they will be destroyed. Even matter which is
not attended to, gets destroyed.
So first of all, we have to know that we must
be attentive and alert, that if we do not
maintain ourselves, we’ll be destroyed.
Because maintenance is not for maintenance
sake, it is for stopping the destruction of your
Guru Principle. When we are negligent or lazy
about it, we are responsible for destroying
our Guru Principle.
So the attention that we have, is to be given
to the maintenance of this Guru Principle.
The gurus have the capacity to maintain
themselves and maintain others. In the
beginning, when the gurus tried to establish
this maintenance principle, they put very,
very strong rules and regulations. If you read
Bible in the Levi chapter, you will find all the
sharias that are described, which they are
following now in Riyadh or in the Arabic
countries. To maintain that principle within
yourself, it’s written in such strong
languages, like:“Such a person who does not
do this, should be killed to death. Such a
person does anything wrong of this kind,
should be killed by stoning.” That was at the
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very beginning, so the people now at that
stage of evolution required that kind of a
fear.
This was not meant to in any way to insult or
to harm, or to take away the freedom of
human beings. But it was meant for people to
give a great idea of the importance of the
Principle of Guru within themselves. At that
stage they used the frightening methods, I
should say – horribly dangerous times. At that
time people obeyed also. Then another
evolutionary state took place where a stage
started, people thought they must become
austere, and start maintaining themselves by
tremendous austerity. So it was selfprojected; it was not projected towards
others, but projected towards themselves.
We can say that the first wave started when
the Guru, the Primordial Guru, said that if you
don’t do this, then you will be killed. The
second stage was where the disciples
accepted this within themselves, and started
telling themselves that: “If we do not do it,
we’ll kill ourselves.” Austerity started on the
basis of wisdom, and not on obstinacy. But
then it became even fanaticism, so it went to
one extreme. It started with the idea of
maintenance. It started with the idea of
maintenance. But maintenance itself became
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impossible, or perhaps they thought that
they are not being able to maintain, they got
confused, and to them rules and regulations
became more important than maintenance
itself. Thus you find they destroyed
themselves.
The wisdom or the essence of Guru Tattwa is
a balance. Like when you maintain a plant, if
you do not give it water, it will die. If you give
it too much water, it will die. So the wisdom
lies in understanding how much water should
be given to the plant, so that it comes up at
its best. Now, this wisdom has to be achieved
through your vibratory awareness. You are
placed under the most fortunate
circumstances, that you are realized souls
before your Guru Tattwa is fully established.
You have all the powers that any guru can
aspire, without having the establishment of
Guru Tattwa. Specially you are under the
complete blanket of the clouds of your
Mother’s love.
But in no way Mother’s love is going to allow
you to destroy your Guru Principle. As I told
you that Guru Principle is a very sensitive
thing, and is destroyed if you yourself do not
try to maintain it. First of all, the destruction
starts from the very source of our being. I
mean to say that our being is created by five
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elements, and the five elements have a
capacity all the time to get destroyed. Any
one of these elements, if they are not looked
after, they get destroyed. That is the built-in
capacity of the elements or of the matter, as
you can say. So to maintain them is
important.
Some people have an idea that once you
become a guru, you need not maintain
everything, it is maintained by itself. It is not.
Agreed that the Spirit definitely enhances the
beauty and the health of these elements; but
at the human level there is always a greater
force that is trying to destroy it. So till we
have completely become the Spirit, there is
always a chance of this destruction working it
out. One may say: Why this balance needed?
And this is an important question which we
should be able to answer all the people who
ask us. Without the balance you cannot
ascend. If you cannot ascend, what’s the use
of our becoming human beings?
For example, everything is God, but nobody is
aware. At the human level you become
aware: means everything exists, everything
is there, but it is not aware. Say, there is a
stone, that is also God, but it is not yet
aware. Like, say, this area is completely dark
and we are blind. There is nothing to be seen,
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to be felt or experienced when you are in that
condition. Actually one thinks that darkness
is the truth, that ignorance is the truth. But
when the sun comes up and the light comes
in and your eyes open, you start seeing
everything. You start becoming aware. So at
human level you are aware at the highest
point.
Now, this awareness has to become the
awareness of the Spirit. That has happened
to you – you have felt the Spirit. But the
balance is not there as yet. Your Mother has
pulled you out and made you that, but still
there is imbalance inside. If you go slightly to
the left, you can be destroyed; you go to the
right, you’ll be destroyed.
So, you have to try both the things as I have
told you the methods, which I’ll explain. First
of all you have to be austere with yourself.
Just separate yourself from yourself.
Separate yourself as a Spirit, and look at your
ego and superego. Now you start watching,
you start watching the ego and superego. Do
not maintain it – they are the destroying
forces.
Now when you see the play as a witness of
these destroying forces, you will know how to
also maintain yourself better. To separate
yourself is easier when you take to austerity.
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The worst thing that elements have done to
you is that you have formed habits, all kinds
of hangs-up. Some people are fond of
bathing, some people are fond of not bathing.
Some people are fond of getting early in the
morning, four o’clock, and singing songs and
waking up everyone, and some are good at
sleeping till ten o’clock. Some like very lightcoloured dresses, some like very loudcoloured dresses. If you are English, then you
want to have English-style everything,
horrible insipid food! If you are French, you
want to have wine, little bit. If you are Italian,
you want to have carbohydrates, too much. If
you are Spanish, you want to have too much
fats. If you are Indians, you want to have too
much of spices. So to change this habit, you
have to give [up] first of all the extremes that
you like. Now if you say that:“I like bland
food” – bland food – then you should say :“I
must eat a lot of chillies.” If you say: “I like
pale colours,” then you wear very loud ones.
Go from one extreme to another extreme, to
begin with. But I’ve seen people, when they
go from one extreme they get stuck up on the
other side also. So we have to be in the
center, not to the extremes.
A man who is an avadhuta, the one who is a
great master, can never be hanged up by any
hangs-up. He can