are granted mining concessions. There is a protected forest with a plantation concession. There is a protected forest with a
production concession. I think mistakes like these are because we do not have one map.]
One map ini sangat penting sekali. [One map is very important.]
Claim
Tidak ada one map policy, regulasi hutan kacau [ There is no one map policy , forest regulation is chaotic]
Implicit warrant
Saya berikan contoh di sebuah provinsi di Kalimantan, saya tidak menyebutkan yang selatan, yang timur, atau yang tengah.
Ada 753 kasus hanya di dalam satu propinsi. Karena apa?
Tumpang tindih antara tambang dan hutan lindung. Antara tambang dan perkebunan, antara perkebunan dan hutan
lindung. Kalau ini tidak segera diselesaikan, hutan kita akan sedikit demi sedikit atau banyak mulai akan digerus untuk
kepentingan-kepentingan yang lain.
[I give an example in a province in Kalimantan, I did not mention the south, the east or the middle. There are 753 cases
only in one province. Because of what? Overlap between mining and protected forests. Between the mines and
plantations, between plantations and forests. If this is not resolved soon, our forests will soon or later begin to be crushed
to the interests of others.] Backing
D5S6J
4.1.1.11 Claim-Rebuttal
The moderator asked Jokowi how Jokowi would react relating to Indonesia’s debts in the recent years which have received under expected target of tax payment.In the
claim below Jokowi stated that in order to reduce the amount of debts is by finishing it step by step. Nevertheless, he did not provide reasons. He provided an exception
for the claim to happen. In the rebuttal, he said the economy could be fixed if there
is a better APBN efficiency. The rebuttal is signed by the word ‘asalkan’ [if]. He,
moreover, gave explanation for doing efficiency which is by giving examples through what he has done such as e-budgeting and e-audit.
kemudian mengenai ekonomi yang berkaitan dengan hutang ini bisa kita selesaikan secara bertahap.
[Then, on the economics associated with this debt, we can solve gradually.]
Claim
asalkan asal ada efisiensi di APBN, asal kebocoran dan
penyimpangan di APBN ini bisa dikurangi terus. Dengan cara apa? Membangun sistem seperti yang sudah sering saya
sampaikan pakek e- budgeting, pakek e-audit, pakek e- purchasing.
[as long as there is efficiency in APBN state budget, as long as the leak and deviations in APBN the budget can be reduced
continuously. In what way? Building a system as I have often mentioned by using e-budgeting, by using e - audit, by using e -
purchasing .] Rebuttal
D2S3J 4.1.1.12 Qualifier-Claim-Rebuttal
In the part of the first debate below Jokowi started his argument with a claim. He
asserted that he thought that the direct election of heads of a territory, a governor, and mayor needs to be held now as the form of sovereignty. In D1S3J argument, he
did not provide a ground or a warrant. He provided a rebuttal which he stated that claim can be done if the technic needs to be held at once to reduce expense.
Sebagai bentuk dari kedaulatan saya kira pemilihan langsung kepala daerah, baik bupati, walikota maupun gubernur tetap
dilaksanakan seperti sekarang Claim
[As a form of sovereignt,y I think direct election of regional heads, district heads, mayors and governors remain to be
implemented as it is now]
hanya caranya yang teknisnya yang harus mungkin. Kita perbaiki dilaksanakan serentak untuk mengurangi biaya, baik
di sebuah provinsi atau mungkin bisa di dalam sebuah negara tetapi ini memerlukan transisi yang agak lama.
[only the technical way that should probably be fixed. We fix simultaneously to reduce costs, both in a provincial or may be
in a state, but this requires quite longer time.] Rebuttal
D1S3J Jokowi claimed that the total of population must be a consideration whether
a territory with a small population can be called as a city, he thought that it could be. This claim is classified because it shows Jokowi’s stand relating to Prabowo’s
question about city forming. After conveying his claim, Jokowi provided that the realization of the claim would be always allowed if the city forming bring an impact
to its people. It is considered as the rebuttal as it is an exception of claim realization. Moreover, a conjunction ‘tetapi’ was also used. ‘Tetapi’ indicates a contradiction
of the previous sentence. However, in argument D1S4J it also shows a requirement followed by the words ‘dengan catatan’.
jumlah penduduk juga harus menjadi pertimbangan apakah penduduk yang hanya sedikit itu bisa diberikan. Saya kira
bisa saja
[the total population should also be consideration whether a small population can be given the right to be a city. I think
it can be] Claim
tetapi dengan catatan bahwa nantinya pemekaran ini memberikan manfaat yang sebesar-besarnya untuk rakyat,
untuk masyarakat Rebuttal
[but with a note that this expansion will provide maximum benefits for the people, for the society]
D1S4J 4.1.2. Prabowo’s Argument Structures
4.1.2.1 Claim-Ground
