HCE Candidates Examples of seim

136 THE SAME PERSONTHINGPLACETIMEKINDPART s2 IS THE SAME KIND AS s2 sp1 DID THE SAME as sp1

5.19.2 HCE Candidates

The two primary exponents of THE SAME in HCE are daseim and seim.

5.19.3 Examples of seim

5.19.3.1 seim PERSON There is a single canonical example of seim and PERSON: MY:1458 Cartwright. Then that’s when all the ‘Ohua Sasaki Camp had to move. So they moved from there. Then they moved. So, see, the Matsuzawas, they all moved. They bought a place there, Matsuzawas. Then you have the DeFries. Then you have the Kawasaki again, but this Kawasaki is different Kawasaki. Yeah, this is the Tenrikyo Kawasaki. You know, the religious Kawasaki. Then, you go there, then you come to the Sasaki Camp with about the same people living there. And then, Nora Spencer family. There are also several near-canonical examples illustrating the same valence: BB:027 Yea, different father. Same mother. EB:1138 So, I no can understand him. He say, “What’s the matter?” I don’t know what’s the matter, eh? We was arguing. So, it happen that Sinclair bin pass. And he stop. He say, “Oh, you no huhu this man. This new man, only today, start.” So, he took me to the camp, clean around the house, the yard. I stayed there about two months, I think. And after that, the same boss in Kawailoa, he recommend me again in Waialua, now, to work in the warehouse. So, I bin go down in Waialua–not in Kawailoa, though; Kawailoa is ma uka. So, I bin go down Waialua. That’s just like city over there. And then, I work to the warehouse. That’s where I stay, because the Sinclair in that Kawailoa, he recommend me over there. ER:817 Yeah, just like the minister, they judge. Then bumbai they figure out who get the nice song, who sing good, who you see, all this kind. No use paper or all da kine. Then they make you the winner, and these guys, maybe number two or number three. So, every three months, yeah, they do that. So every three months, you get same group, you like win this guy, win this guy, everybody like go sing eh, you know what I mean? Before days, that’s how they go. JL:10 Yeh, yeh, yeh. But on our side, only one, William, my grandfather. From da oldest brudda. Only one. Den he went back England and he say he goin die, tell da youngest brudda come back, marry da same wife, nine children. NC:119 Only harvesting and planting. That’s the only time he hires. A few. Before they work more like help each other too, yeah? When you need’ men, so many go to your farm and finish your planting. Then the same gang goes to the other place plant like that. TA:57 Oh, it’s about 3, 4, 5 years old. I don’t know. Had the same members that was in the former one. They in the new one. Here again, I must assume that muda, bas, grup, waid, gaeng, and membaz are decomposable in terms of PERSON. 5.19.3.2 seim THING There are several canonical examples of seim combining with SOMETHING: AK:598 After steamed, we bring the taro out, we wash in the tub, wash with the water. And then after that, we peel the taro. After you peel the taro, then you grind, put in the machine, grind. Then, 137 after that, the poi come out; those days, we have flour sack bag, we put in there. Twenty-two pound, or 20 pound. Those days, the poi was cheap you know. And then we have a ti leaf, we set the ti leaf this way. You know the ti leaf, bigger ones, one leaf each, one, maybe get about 12 leaves. Then you put the sack on, then you wrap ’em up, then you tie that up for keep it fresh. Then your 50 cents, you do the same thing but you wrap something like you wrap package. That’s what we do. AK:605 Well, he pay us the same thing, dollar something. And we get free meal. Like how Akioka was, we have. FD:273 Yeah, for the sling. Put the hand inside. For days, eh? Until she finish apply the medicine. Mrs. Kaniko, now today, she had her arm dislocated and then I had one brother, you know the bone over here crack, eh? From riding horse, crack over here, and then you can see the bone coming here. And then she used the same thing, but with The medicine is jowi. I think you seen this plant, it’s kind of velvet looking, the leaf. It’s not too big, it’s small. Have purple flowers. It’s not the big bush, you know. And then they use that. She use that. The leaves and she pound, she add salt. MM:373 When I finish this field, I got to go this field, this field. And then, when you burn–now, let’s say, now, this field get hundred acres. Now, when I go over there, when you going think that the crane and everything going come inside there? Maybe in the morning. All right. You figure to yourself, maybe you burn twenty acres. Twenty acres going carry you to tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning about nine, ten o’clock. Then, tomorrow morning, you going do the same thing. You going to burn another twenty acres. Or if you think little short, you going burn twenty-two, twenty-three. All depend. You going to see the field, too. Maybe if the cane looks little bit poor, you going to burn little bit more, eh? But the hard thing was, you know these big guns on Grove Farm, especially like Van Dreser like that. Saturday afternoons, they no like see no burned cane left in the mill. But today I see. MT:1187 So if it’s doing the trick or not, I cannot say. Now is the next crop growing again. So I didn’t put coral this time. But I see coral is still in the ground yet. On this same thing, I going try to put some other different type fertilizer on top of that. It cost money, you know. NK:952 Yeah. Nowdays, you have this kind variety. That’s most people keep. Because they rather have more coffee than less. But taking care, about the same. But before, they never used to fertilize the coffee. All they do is to clean all the grass. Ho hana– or pull the grass. Leave ’em inside the field, like that, dry. And sometime, you have to hulihuli the grass so dry. If you just going to leave like that, they going grow up again. Even today, you do the same thing. If you pull the grass, you just leave like that, they going grow up again. So, if you go, you hulihuli around there and dry. SU:1521 Then I learn. I come home from work, I learn. Every day, I do. Same, over and over. I practice. Finally, I catch on everything better than the ordinary people who go inside there and then learn. So Mr. Murakawa asked me, “Who teach you how to do this?” “Well,” I say, “I go home. I do it over, and over, and over. And after you folks go home, sometimes I used to go down the working place and then see all you folks’ tools, how you folks fix up.” Because those days, they leave all the tools in one place, nobody steal everything. So I go down there. I go open up, I look, and file. And then, come home, and I do the same thing, the way how they do it. Then Mr. Murakawa say, “Well, you do this.” So, okay, I do it. And then, after I go home, I do the same thing again. I took my square measure, I measure everything, and I write ’em down. And then he assigned me with a Mr. Shimizu to go to all different camps to repair. Repair the steps, and then kitchen sink, everything. Most of the... SU:1524 Yeah. Feed the pig, and then feed the chickens. And then, go to school. And then after we come back from school, me, I like sports, see. Everybody come home, so I run and come home. I run and come home to finish all the detail that I have to do. You got to feed the pig again. see, and chickens. Then, after I get time, I go in the pasture with all the boys, go play baseball. I do the same thing over and over, day after day, day after day, to help him out. SU:1538 Yeah. Fifty cents, only. And then, how much? Bag of rice from wholesaler about dollar and a quarter. Potato, seventy-five cents. Onion, fifty cents. You just leave ’em on the side, behind the building. Nobody steal or nothing. We used to stack ’em up. Nobody do nothing. Nobody touch. But since we came state, well, different story. We got to lock ’em up. Even though we lock ’em up, same thing happen. 138 TA:39 To the guys that pull. You raising taro, see. Well, I going tell you 20 bags and I take the bags to you, 20 bags. Until today, they do the same thing. 5.19.3.3 seim TIME There are numerous canonical examples containing seim and TIME: AK:610 Right in the back, that’s the spring water; we used that as a water, and we bathe there same time. Of course, that spring is big and the spring near. Then we dip up a place, a big place to wash. You bathe in there. After we build that house now, then we make where we build up a shower and all that inside, and a outside shower and all that. ER:811 Yeah, same time I take da kine meat for my girlfriend house. Every time he tell me, “We go down my house,” my friend–the brother, eh. Every time, “We go down over here.” “Ah, more better we go tomorrow morning then.” So we go shoot goat, we take them, get something for eat eh. “Ah,” he tell me, “okay we go in the morning.” GF:332 Then Harrison’s mother heard about it. She came, too. Then she tell me, “Gee, easy to raise?” “Oh yeah, easy to raise. You just give food and water, and one lantern. That’s all. Plenty chicks, two lantern.” “Why you put the lantern?” “Keep them warm. Same time, they can eat the mosquitos that fly.” Then she ask me, “You can build coops for me like that?” “Oh sure, I help you.” So I help her. And I help my brothers-in-law. MM:323 Salesmen, yeah. They used to come with buggy and the wagon. They come one day and they come take orders. Of course, they take the orders same day. They come every other day, I think, not every day. When they come one day, they deliver what’s been ordered before. And they deliver, and the same time, they take order for the next trip. So every time they come, they bringing something, and same time they take orders. MM:363 The men, they jump down from the train. Some of them, they run, you know. They know it’s a good place, they run, yo. Where is good place I talking, they get all kind of places. Where they see that car stay all in the level place, they got to rush and go, yo. Because the oar, not so much then you going get pali, you know. So they no want to go to the pali, eh? So they run, you know. Sometime, you know, two guys grab the car same time, eh? “Ey, I wen come first.” Sometime get like that, too, you know. NC:158 So I tell my wife, “Climb the tree.” So my boy climbed way up high and the old man climbed the second one and my wife cannot get up because the tree will come down, so she stood on one tree, has the branch, a little over one foot above ground and she stayed there. She stayed there. Get two trees right near each other. She hold, hang on the tree. Then Takeo climbed the other tree that’s about a good 30 to 40 feet away from where my wife was. Then I look at the wave and said, “Geez, going to cover me.” So I told him, “Takeo, hold the baby.” So I pushed the baby up because I was afraid that the wave would throw me off. I can swim, but I cannot save the baby. So I held the guava tree and at the same time, I was fighting the grass and all the shrubs, those things, so that it won’t knock the tree. I was standing first and after, when the waves came, it struck me clear. My legs all go off. Only my hand holding the tree so when the waves started to recede, I looked and said, “What happened to my wife?” I asked Takeo. He said, “Gee, I don’t know. I cannot see your wife. I only see your boy stay pulling the grass and the rubbish away.” So I started swim down and he said, “Jump on top the grass. It is faster. You can ease down faster. ”You know, the grass thick like this, all cover that place. NC:176 Then I say, “I throw ’em away because if it is going be watery, cannot use?” He say, “Oh, rich, eh? Big area like that and throw ’em all away.” I say, “Experiment.” He say, “Why don’t you experiment on one small patch?” I said, “No. It’s worthwhile experimenting on the big patch. I had rice, I experiment on this patch.” So they put the fertilizer; they grumbling at the same time. I said, “No mind, put ’em in.” So they put ’em in. Gee, I was afraid, too. Twelve months that thing still dark green, you know, 13 months, 14 months, still green, supposed to be little more and ready. Eighteen months can harvest, you know, gray taro. Gee, 19 months time and just start to turn yellow. I say, “There you are.” 139 NK:950... king. When people come in, like that, only her there because all the other people, they go out; they do this; they do that; and then, not time. When this people come and when the king sit down and talk with the other people, they drink. So, she entertain them. She oli and she chant at the same time. Sometime, she only oli. Oli in Hawaiian, ooh, the.... Too bad we never learn. Anyway, our sisters, not interested. SU:1521 Then, hammer, we don’t know. So I just bought the hammer. I figure, well, light hammer is better. No, light hammer is no good. Medium-size hammer is good. So every time when you near, you smash your finger, see. Then, same time, when you use the kanna, you don’t know how to use the kanna. You know, Japan kanna. SU:1522 Mr. Murakawa look at me, he say, “Where did you learn all this?” I tell, “Well, I look what Mr. Shimizu doing, and same time I look the book, read the book, and did it.” “Oh, good.” Then he assign me to fix the sink, regular sink, kitchen. Oh, that was easy already because I know the routine already. Then, tell me, “Okay, you graduate this one, so you learn how to do this.” So he told me to learn how to nail the floor of the.... You know? Then, okay, that is finished. Then the ceiling. Ceiling was hard because you have to look up, eh? Then after you finish that, wall, partition. SU:1534 That Magoon used to raise duck. And Toma used to take care that. And then, same time, Toma go out fishing. He throw net. He doesn’t work, only fish. Then whatever he catch, he sell to the neighbors, he sell to the teahouse. SU:1549 At that time, my number two sister, she works there. She take care from two o’clock in the morning till six o’clock. Only herself in front and one cook behind. Same time he cook, and when he get time, he wash all the dishes and everything. From two o’clock to six o’clock, only two–one of my sisters and the cook. Then, when she’s busy, she just leave the cigar box. The customer put the money inside. 5.19.3.4 seim PLACE There are three good examples of seim combining with PLACE: JL:18 When he retired here, he went Kukaiau Ranch. He took me along. Stay da same house, eat da same place on da table, drink da highball and sleep togetha. MT:1194 That, we stick; that, we real farmers. Everybody sticks together. We growing the same product and we mill it at the same place, so we have the same problems. Like this here, we don’t mill it at the same place. This goes all over the place. SU:1531 At the same place used to get a church and then a big yard down there, no? Yeah, that’s about all, I think. 5.19.3.5 seim KIND Our corpus contained four examples of seim combining with KIND OF: ER:880 Yeah, because he was the top boss, eh. So he come see me if I like go drive truck because get room now for go inside. Because the cowboy pay was same kind pay with the truck drivers. NC:137 You know the Japanese-kind mat? The Chinese get too, eh, but the Chinese kind is kind of wide. The Japanese one is about this wide, eh? You know the kind they go beach with? Same kind. Straw mat. Hard to sleep, you know. It’s all right if you sleep only on your back. But when you like move sideways it’s hard; catch the hip bone, eh? Hard. SU:1552 Okay. And then, toward to Downtown side, used to have Sarashina Inn. Serve same kind of food, but they are all different booths. So you can bring the wahine, go down there, eh? You know. And then, further down, you go to, of course, KC Drive Inn and everything, but further to Waikiki side, you have the Bluebird Cafe. You know that? YA:1052 Oh, same kind. Mostly, you know, repair da kine for the ship. You know, when they assign you one job, you make bearing for certain kind of job. You know, bearings, they pour by the lead 140 already, see? All you have to do is put on machine and cut the bearing into two half. Then, you make ’em to fit, eh? That’s all, see. 5.19.3.6 X IS seim KIND AS Y Our corpus contained a single near-canonical example of seim combining with KIND OF in the “relator” valence of seim: ER:880 Yeah, because he was the top boss, eh. So he come see me if I like go drive truck because get room now for go inside. Because the cowboy pay was same kind pay with the truck drivers. 5.19.3.7 DO seim AS X This valence is manifested differently depending on the main predicate of the clause. The following is a canonical example of this valence with predicate DO: FD:258 Today is so wasteful. You buy two box of frozen shrimp, you only catch about two, three fish sometimes. So wasteful. I used to tell my sons to do the same like the grandfather. Just use the homemade hook. But not one of them tried. The following examples are near-canonical and do not demonstrate this valence as clearly: AK:599 Carry out from the patch. You know, here is the patch, you carry out from the patch, then we pack it on the mule, the same thing like that, we pack it on the mule. Then we lead all the mules to the poi shop. The animals, they know where they going. We just let them go, they come straight to the poi shop. Whatever we do, like us, we young, we always run away from the older guys. AK:612 Well, an old man gave me. See, this man, he belonged to Laupahoehoe; he was living Laupahoehoe, Waipio and Kona. He used to live in Kona. So when I came Waipio, he said that when I was a little boy, he used to keep me. But I don’t remember. Then, one time, I get a chance, I went back and I asked my father if that was true. He said, “Yeah, that was true.” I asked who was the name of the man. He said, “Yeah, when you was a little boy, he take care of you.” And then another lady, the same thing as that. She tell me when I was a little boy she was taking care of me. I not going believe that, but I ask my father, and he say it’s true. ER:753 When he died, was about the wartime. Then us, over here, no more airplane, eh, and no more boat for go, so I never go to his funeral, ’cause we no can reach over there. At that time the wartime was only certain time you can ride on the boat for go over there. So they no can take too much people. So me and my brother, we never go to his funeral until maybe one year later. Then everything kind of little bit slow down. Then get boat we can go. We only go by the graveyard, go look his grave, and then we come back. Same thing, like my sister, too, died Kona in Hawaii, we never go, too. We never go visit. SU:1545 Well, same like beef cutlet. Cut ’em thin, and then you put the bread crumbs, and then fry ’em.

5.19.4 Summary